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Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1.

From HGW <hgw@...>
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Subject Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1.
Date 2016-03-17 09:17 +1100
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On 17/03/2016 8:36 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:

>>
>> Your speculation.  <shrug>
>
> Go ahead, check it out.
> LOL.
> John R. Taylor, Classical Mechanics
> Herbert Goldstein, Classical Mechanics
> Tom Kibble, Classical Mechanics
> David Morin, Introduction to Classical Mechanics
> H.C. Corben and P. Stehle, Classical Mechanics
> V. Barger, Classical Mechanics
> Landua and Lifshitz, Mechanics
>
>
>>
>>> I'm sure also that you'll claim that the solution to a double pendulum,
>>> acquired by using Lagrangians, can only possibly yield a closed
>>> trajectory, so that any solution discussed that exhibits chaotic
>>> behavior must certainly have involved a mistake in using the Lagrangian
>>> method. I await your step-by-step explication of the exact mistake made
>>> in all the instances of the usage of that method.
>>
>> To apply the Lagrangian method, some certain conditions have to be
>> met.  If not,
>> you cannot use the Lagrangian method.  It is that simple.  <shrug>
>
> So no explication of the mistake. Very good. More trying to substitute
> hubris for competence.

Bodkin, it is true that given perfectly stable conditions and with dead 
accurate information, it should be possible to predict the position, 
speed etc., of a double pendulum after a certain time. However chaotic 
systems invariably involve instability, often minute and unpredictable 
influences that cause major long term errors in the mathematical 
predictions.

When you try to learn about physics from the internet, you should make 
sure you understand what you read before you copy and paste it here. 
physics

I suggest you perform a simple computer simulation to see how the 
proximity of a third object will affect the orbit of one object around a 
much larger one so you will see how and why Mercury's precession is 
impossible to predict....even by your god himself.

You can use my own program if you are not too stubborn.
http://www.scisite.info/threebody.exe
It does not contain a virus.

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The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-07 20:34 +0000
  Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. François Theobaldus <fraop@sshimown.org> - 2016-03-07 21:16 +0000
  Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 15:29 -0600
    Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-08 17:15 +0000
      Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 11:20 -0600
        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-09 13:21 +1100
          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-08 19:37 -0800
            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-09 14:47 +1100
              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-09 04:36 -0800
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-09 19:25 +0000
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            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-09 19:23 +0000
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        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 15:07 -0600
          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-10 09:15 +1100
            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 16:34 -0600
            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 09:32 -0600
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