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Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1.

From HGW <hgw@...>
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Subject Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1.
Date 2016-03-15 11:01 +1100
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On 15/03/2016 2:01 AM, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> On Monday, March 14, 2016 at 7:39:54 AM UTC-5, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>
>>> He thought Mercury's precession was constant.
>>
>> Yes, indeed, and he was right.
>
> You mean that the *anomalous* precession is constant.

...and what factors might cause that 'anomalous precession'? Do you have 
any idea?

> The *total* precession is variable depending on the planetary configuration
> from orbit to orbit. In the absence of resonance, however, it averages out
> to a constant value. And no, there aren't any resonances that would serve to
> invalidate Gauss' ring approximation. (i.e. consider the mass of each outer
> planet as being distributed in a ring the diameter of the planet's orbit.)
> Nowadays, of course, we do not need to resort to Gauss' ring approximation,
> and computations using least-squares fitting of planetary orbits as a whole
> fully support the predictions of general relativity.
>
>> If the other planets weren't there, the precession of the perihelion
>> of Mercury would indeed be a steady 43"/415 per orbit.
>> Einstein didn't calculate any other precession.

Einstein merely adjusted his equation so it would produce what he 
thought was the right answer. It wasn't. There is no 'right answer'.

>> (But he knew about Le Verrier's Newtonian prediction for
>>    the influence of the other planets, of course.)
>>>>> If I hadn't told YOU it  was chaotic nobody here would have known.
>
> Oh, come on, Henry.
>
>> The precession of the perihelion of Mercury per century isn't chaotic,
>> it is predictable, calculable and correctly predicted by Newtonian
>> mechanics, but for the 43"/century which are explained by GR.
>
> The orbits of the planets are chaotic over periods of tens of millions of
> years. Over periods of a few centuries, solar system orbits are highly
> predictable.

there effect is always chaotic. You obviously still don't know what 
chaotic means.

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The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-07 20:34 +0000
  Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. François Theobaldus <fraop@sshimown.org> - 2016-03-07 21:16 +0000
  Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 15:29 -0600
    Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-08 17:15 +0000
      Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 11:20 -0600
        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-09 13:21 +1100
          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-08 19:37 -0800
            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-09 14:47 +1100
              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-09 04:36 -0800
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-09 19:25 +0000
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Francois Theobaldus <fraop@sshimown.org> - 2016-03-09 19:32 +0000
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-09 14:15 -0800
          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 22:12 -0600
            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-09 19:23 +0000
              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-17 19:29 +1100
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Dingxiang Huizhong <dingx@consumerdomain.org> - 2016-03-17 16:23 +0000
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 15:56 -0700
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-18 11:36 +1100
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 18:50 -0700
      Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-17 16:09 +1100
        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 22:54 -0700
          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 23:56 -0700
            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 00:14 -0700
              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 03:51 -0700
              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 09:09 -0500
  Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-07 22:42 +0100
    Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-08 17:11 +0000
      Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 22:15 -0600
        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-09 19:10 +1100
          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 08:48 -0600
            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Luigi Durante <luigdu@jaccappo.org> - 2016-03-09 20:06 +0000
      Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-09 21:59 +0100
        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 15:07 -0600
          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-10 09:15 +1100
            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 16:34 -0600
            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 09:32 -0600
              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-12 19:27 +0000
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 09:49 -0500
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-15 11:14 +1100
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 07:53 -0500
        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Luigi Durante <luigdu@jaccappo.org> - 2016-03-09 21:14 +0000
        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-10 09:09 +1100
          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 16:13 -0600
          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-10 14:43 +0100
            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-12 18:50 +0000
              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-13 20:43 +0100
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-14 09:59 +1100
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-14 13:39 +0100
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 08:01 -0700
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-15 11:01 +1100
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 00:04 -0700
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-15 20:08 +1100
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 04:43 -0700
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-15 11:23 +1100
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-15 23:20 +0100
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-16 10:20 +1100
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-17 11:08 +0100
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