Re: Difference between client and server side cookie

From	Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.javascript
Subject	Re: Difference between client and server side cookie
Date	2016-03-14 11:52 -0300
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On 14/03/16 11:01, Evertjan. wrote:
> Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> wrote on 14 Mar 2016 in
> comp.lang.javascript: 
> 
>> On 14/03/16 07:43, Evertjan. wrote:
>>> Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> wrote on 14 Mar 2016 in 
>>> comp.lang.javascript:
>>>
>>>>  It is perfectly reasonable to talk of the cookie in transit,
>>>> in the header and arriving (to be stored however temporarily) on the
>>>> server.
>>>
>>> Indeed, so I reason against it.
>>>
>>> For then you should concede that a cookie can also "however
>>> temporarily" exists on your router, on all the hosts seen by traceroute
>>> in transit to and from the server. 
>>>
>>> No, I "perfectly reasonably" reason it makes no sense to call that 
>>> "existing".
>>>
>>> No, I reason that only the content [key/value/expiration-info] of a
>>> cookie travels with of in response to commands, but that the cookie
>>> "is" what is stored in browser-memory. 
>>>
>>> btw, you would not call a command to delete a cookie [key + past date]
>>> a cookie, I trust? 
>>>
>>> And what about a command to change an existing [in my definition]
>>> cookie's value, would that be a "traveling" cookie in its own right?
>>> Not so! 
>>
>> Let's make an analogy here.
>>
>> Your eyes are organ that exist inside your skull and let you see. If I
>> take them off with a spoon, they cease being eyes because they are
>> outside now and you can't see anymore?
> 
> Nonsense, eyes don't store data, dead eyes even less than not.
> 
> A cookie is a data-container, 
> an instance of preserving such data,
> not the data itself.

Well, they have been contained in plain text, now some browsers use
SQLite. Isn't the term affected by what contains them?

Isn't in-transit data still contained anyway?

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Difference between client and server side cookie bit-naughty@hotmail.com - 2016-03-12 05:38 -0800
  Re: Difference between client and server side cookie "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-03-12 15:02 +0100
  Re: Difference between client and server side cookie Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 16:19 +0100
    Re: Difference between client and server side cookie "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-03-12 23:32 +0100
      Re: Difference between client and server side cookie Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> - 2016-03-12 20:23 -0300
        Re: Difference between client and server side cookie "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-03-13 10:48 +0100
          Re: Difference between client and server side cookie Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-03-13 10:42 +0000
            Re: Difference between client and server side cookie "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-03-13 12:05 +0100
              Re: Difference between client and server side cookie Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-03-13 11:46 +0000
            Re: Difference between client and server side cookie Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-13 13:46 +0100
              Re: Difference between client and server side cookie bit-naughty@hotmail.com - 2016-03-13 07:07 -0700
                Re: Difference between client and server side cookie Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-13 16:34 +0100
              Re: Difference between client and server side cookie Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-03-13 23:42 +0000
                Re: Difference between client and server side cookie Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-14 01:54 +0100
                Re: Difference between client and server side cookie Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-14 10:36 +0100
                Re: Difference between client and server side cookie "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-03-14 11:43 +0100
                Re: Difference between client and server side cookie Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> - 2016-03-14 10:21 -0300
                Re: Difference between client and server side cookie "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-03-14 15:01 +0100
                Re: Difference between client and server side cookie Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> - 2016-03-14 11:52 -0300
                Re: Difference between client and server side cookie "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-03-14 17:06 +0100
                Re: Difference between client and server side cookie Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> - 2016-03-14 13:17 -0300
                Re: Difference between client and server side cookie "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-03-14 19:43 +0100
                Re: Difference between client and server side cookie Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> - 2016-03-14 16:17 -0300
                Re: Difference between client and server side cookie "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-03-14 23:22 +0100
                Re: Difference between client and server side cookie Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> - 2016-03-14 19:38 -0300
                Re: Difference between client and server side cookie "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-03-14 23:44 +0100
                Re: Difference between client and server side cookie Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> - 2016-03-14 21:49 -0300
                Re: Difference between client and server side cookie "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-03-15 10:18 +0100
                Re: Difference between client and server side cookie Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> - 2016-03-15 11:39 -0300
                Re: Difference between client and server side cookie John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-03-15 09:40 +0000
                Re: Difference between client and server side cookie "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-03-15 12:08 +0100
                Re: Difference between client and server side cookie Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 13:22 +0100
                Re: Difference between client and server side cookie "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-03-15 15:53 +0100
          Re: Difference between client and server side cookie Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> - 2016-03-13 13:51 -0300
    Re: Difference between client and server side cookie bit-naughty@hotmail.com - 2016-03-13 07:09 -0700

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