Re: LIGO defies Uncertainty principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth?

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
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Subject	Re: LIGO defies Uncertainty principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth?
Date	2016-03-07 08:32 -0600
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On 3/6/2016 1:04 PM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 3:04:57 PM UTC-6, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> On 3/5/16 2:33 PM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
>>> LIGO violates Uncertainty Principle
>>
>>
>>     Nothing violates the uncertainty principle, AP. Let's see your
>>     equations.
>>
>
> Why when your posts are devoid of commonsense reason. All you manage to do is quote
> someone else. To a small mind like yours, the only truth is that which is "in print"
> and anything else is falsity.
>
> Let me walk that small mind of yours through the Uncertainty Principle in Biology. So
> you have a microscope or series of microscopes and you want to identify the cell, and
> you manage a "light microscope" to do the job because light particles are smaller than
> the cell.
>
> Next you want to see bacteria, and the light particle is small enough for large bacteria
> but small bacteria need a particle smaller than light so you get a electron microscope.
>
> Next you want to see a virus so you try the electron microscope but some viruses are not
> seen in the electron microscope well enough.
>
> Now you want to see the electron itself, but it has no particle smaller than the electron
> to see the electron. That is the Uncertainty Principle. You can pretend to see it by
> filtering out Noise as what LIGO does, but does LIGO end up seeing a "gravity wave" or
> end up seeing just some more noise.
>
> What LIGO does is discard the Uncertainty Principle, and installs Noise filteration as
> seeing the gravity wave.

LIGO is not attempting to resolve an object that is smaller than a light 
wave. An oscillation is not a little pea you're trying to resolve like 
what you're doing in a microscope.

>
> If we were to set viruses under a light microscope and filter out noise, do we then
> announce we saw the virus in the light microscope?
>
> AP
>


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Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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LIGO violates Uncertainty Principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 12:33 -0800
  Re: LIGO violates Uncertainty Principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 15:04 -0600
    LIGO defies Uncertainty principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 11:04 -0800
      easiest way to expose LIGO as a fraud Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 14:36 -0800
      Re: LIGO defies Uncertainty principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 18:22 -0600
        Re: LIGO defies Uncertainty principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 18:56 -0800
          Re: LIGO defies Uncertainty principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-03-06 20:25 -0800
          Re: LIGO defies Uncertainty principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 08:19 -0600
            Re: LIGO defies Uncertainty principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 06:27 -0800
            Re: LIGO defies Uncertainty principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 15:19 -0800
              Re: LIGO defies Uncertainty principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 12:58 -0800
                Re: LIGO defies Uncertainty principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 16:01 -0600
      Re: LIGO defies Uncertainty principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-03-06 20:16 -0800
      Re: LIGO defies Uncertainty principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 08:32 -0600
        Re: LIGO defies Uncertainty principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 07:10 -0800
          Re: LIGO defies Uncertainty principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 12:34 -0500
            Re: LIGO defies Uncertainty principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 10:29 -0800
            Re: LIGO defies Uncertainty principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 11:01 -0800
            Re: LIGO defies Uncertainty principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 11:01 -0800
        Re: LIGO defies Uncertainty principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 12:02 -0800
          Re: LIGO defies Uncertainty principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-07 13:22 -0800
          Re: LIGO defies Uncertainty principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 15:34 -0600
        why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 13:03 -0800
          Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 16:03 -0600
            Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-03-09 22:00 -0500
              Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 21:49 -0600
                Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-03-10 09:41 -0500
                Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 08:52 -0600
                Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-03-10 10:26 -0500
                Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 09:57 -0600
                Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-03-10 16:42 -0500
                Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 16:12 -0600
                Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-03-10 22:21 -0500
                Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 07:15 -0600
                Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-03-11 12:18 -0500
                Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 11:47 -0600
                Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-03-11 16:46 -0500
                Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 16:57 -0600
                was not aware physicists use phony irrational numbers to compensate for LIGO Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 11:08 -0800
                Re: was not aware physicists use phony irrational numbers to compensate for LIGO Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 16:10 -0800
  Re: LIGO violates Uncertainty Principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-03-05 13:19 -0800
  Re: LIGO violates Uncertainty Principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 09:04 -0600
  Re: LIGO violates Uncertainty Principle Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 10:20 -0600
    sci.physics compared to sci.math Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 11:56 -0800

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