Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth?

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
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Subject	Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth?
Date	2016-03-11 07:15 -0600
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On 3/10/2016 9:21 PM, Jackpol11@hotmail.com wrote:
> For reference see:
> http://physics.aps.org/featured-article-pdf/10.1103/PhysRevLett.116.061102
> I didn't say it was difficult-I said it was unspeakable. I worked out
> the units myself as you saw in the previous note so that's behind us.
> A bastard term like frequency to the -11/3 power needs someone to
> explain its relevance and its origin.

The derivation of that equation can be found in the article referenced 
in this paper. If you would bother to look that up, you might have your 
questions answered.
L. Blanchet, T. Damour, B. R. Iyer, C. M. Will, and A. G.
Wiseman, Phys. Rev. Lett. 74, 3515 (1995)
This is the reason the reference is listed, so that you not think it was 
made up from thin air.

> Or at least give it units so
> that it should be understood. for
>   Let L = wavelength or m/cycle = 1/F. Then we have
>       f^-11/3 = L^11/3 = cube root of (meters^11/cycle^11)

I really don't think that's necessary. You're asking scientists to 
explain the units in a way that is understandable TO YOU. But as you can 
see, even others on this group have not struggled with it to the degree 
you have, and I'm fairly confident physicists do not struggle with it.

> This is hard to believe
> Things don't really improve by taking the 3/5 power of all that.

I don't know what you mean by "improve". The theory is the theory.

> This algebra is really dubious.
> In the other note, I was looking for some enlightenment about 62 solar
> masses coming and going in less than a millisecond, as I figured out
> in the last note.
> John Polasek

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 13:03 -0800
  Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 16:03 -0600
    Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-03-09 22:00 -0500
      Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 21:49 -0600
        Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-03-10 09:41 -0500
          Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 08:52 -0600
            Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-03-10 10:26 -0500
              Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 09:57 -0600
                Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-03-10 16:42 -0500
                Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 16:12 -0600
                Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-03-10 22:21 -0500
                Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 07:15 -0600
                Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-03-11 12:18 -0500
                Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 11:47 -0600
                Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-03-11 16:46 -0500
                Re: why did LIGO turn off their machine Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 16:57 -0600
                was not aware physicists use phony irrational numbers to compensate for LIGO Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 11:08 -0800
                Re: was not aware physicists use phony irrational numbers to compensate for LIGO Re: why so many scientists and mathematicians opt for flash fame with wrong ideas rather than no fame but the truth? Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 16:10 -0800

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