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Re: SYNONYM question

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Am Mon, 08 Feb 2016 22:03:17 -0800 schrieb hughaguilar96:

> You don't know enough about ANS-Forth to write SYNONYM in ANS-Forth,
> although I succeeded at doing this.

No, you didn't quite, you e.g. didn't succeed with synonyms of values, 
where TO <synonym> works, or synonyms of deferred words, where IS 
<synonym> works.

Though, of course, the Forth-2012 spec does not say that "to newname" has 
the same semantics as "to oldname", and also for IS and DEFER@ (deferred 
words).  Or that ' newname execute and ' newname compile, always will do 
the same as ' oldname execute and ' oldname compile,.  So you succeeded 
in creating a synonym that actually does what's specified, but no more.

A quality implementation should behave well on all that, and that's 
impossible in ANS Forth, which is the actual reason for having SYNONYM in 
the standard instead of in a library.  You can certainly argue that the 
Forth-2012 standard fell short, by only requiring those parts to work on 
a synonym, where your ANS Forth implementation already works, and it 
should more than just that.

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SYNONYM question Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-02-03 12:47 +0000
  Re: SYNONYM question Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2016-02-03 05:36 -0800
    Re: SYNONYM question stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2016-02-03 15:36 +0000
      Re: SYNONYM question Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-02-03 17:26 +0000
        Re: SYNONYM question Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-02-27 00:07 +0000
        Re: SYNONYM question hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-02-26 18:44 -0800
      Re: SYNONYM question Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2016-02-04 02:17 -0800
        Re: SYNONYM question Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-02-04 11:32 +0000
          Re: SYNONYM question stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2016-02-04 17:12 +0000
      Re: SYNONYM question hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-02-08 22:03 -0800
        Re: SYNONYM question Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-03 00:09 +0000
          Re: SYNONYM question hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-02 22:02 -0800
  Re: SYNONYM question anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-02-03 15:16 +0000
    Re: SYNONYM question Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-02-03 18:26 +0000
      Re: SYNONYM question Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-02-03 20:09 +0000
        Re: SYNONYM question Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-02-03 20:52 +0000
          Re: SYNONYM question "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-02-03 15:59 -1000
          Re: SYNONYM question Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-02-04 11:25 +0000
      Re: SYNONYM question Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2016-02-04 02:16 -0800
        Re: SYNONYM question anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-02-04 11:18 +0000
      Re: SYNONYM question anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-02-04 10:54 +0000
        Re: SYNONYM question "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-02-04 23:35 +1100
  Re: SYNONYM question Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-02-03 19:48 +0000
    Re: SYNONYM question "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-02-04 11:07 +1100
    Re: SYNONYM question anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-02-04 11:08 +0000

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