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Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING"

From Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au>
Newsgroups alt.war.vietnam, alt.usenet.kooks, alt.support.depression
Subject Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING"
Date 2016-02-25 03:31 +1100
Organization news.aioe.org
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"Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> Wrote in message:
> On 2/22/2016 8:35 AM, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
>> "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> Wrote in message:
>>> The origin of the expression is not known. Conventional wisdom has long
>>> fancied it to be the use of kippers (pungent smoked fish) to train
>>> hounds to follow a scent, or to divert them from the correct route when
>>> hunting; however, modern linguistic research suggests that the term was
>>> probably invented in 1807 by English polemicist William Cobbett,
>>> referring to one occasion on which he had supposedly used a kipper to
>>> divert hounds from chasing a hare, which was never an actual practice of
>>> hunters. The phrase was later borrowed to provide a formal name for the
>>> logical fallacy and literary device.
>>>
>>> *The more you know*
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I had read that it arose from fox hunting, but back then,
>>   Wikipedia said that
>> all attempts to connect the limerick with Limerick in Ireland had
>>   failed.
>> Now, wikipedia says the opposite.  There are "history
>>   revisionists," who
>>
>> like to have a second look at history.  Every American has heard of
>> George Washington's little hatchet.  The revisionists say that
>>   there were
>> no cherry trees on  his father's property.  The story was the
>>   invention of
>> an early biographer.
>>
>> Doug.
> 
> 
> Wikipedia is not written by experts in the given field of knowledge, and 
> it is therefore not acceptable as a credible source.
> 

Oui, mon colonel. But I thought that a red herring did not mean a
 logical
fallacy.  To me, it means going down the wrong path experimentally.
Following a line of inquiry that leads nowhere, like a country
 road that
fades into bushland.
--

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LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> - 2016-02-22 07:35 -0800
  Re:LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> - 2016-02-23 03:35 +1100
    Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> - 2016-02-23 06:53 -0800
      Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "Jack G." <j.granade@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-23 07:49 -0800
      Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> - 2016-02-25 03:31 +1100
        Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-24 11:49 -0500
          Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-24 21:42 +0100
            Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-02-24 20:56 -0800
              Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-24 23:59 -0500
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-02-24 21:07 -0800
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-25 00:23 -0500
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-02-24 21:51 -0800
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2016-02-24 21:56 -0800
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" pandora <pandora@peak.org> - 2016-02-25 12:03 -0600
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-25 13:04 -0500
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "Jack G." <j.granade@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-25 11:50 -0800
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-25 07:00 +0100
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2016-02-24 22:13 -0800
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-25 06:50 +0100
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-25 01:21 -0500
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-25 17:49 +0100
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "Jack G." <j.granade@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-25 09:33 -0800
                TROLLED K0ok IS TROLLED... "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-25 13:01 -0500
                TROLLED K0ok IS TROLLED... "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-25 13:01 -0500
              Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2016-02-24 21:48 -0800
            Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-25 04:15 -0500
        Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> - 2016-02-24 09:21 -0800
          Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "David" <dd@daviddw.com> - 2016-02-24 17:24 -0600
  Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "David" <dd@daviddw.com> - 2016-02-23 17:53 -0600
    Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> - 2016-02-24 09:22 -0800

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