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Re:LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING"

From Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au>
Newsgroups alt.war.vietnam, alt.usenet.kooks, alt.support.depression
Subject Re:LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING"
Date 2016-02-23 03:35 +1100
Organization news.aioe.org
Message-ID <nafdb9$11d7$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink)
References <hVFyy.50949$_w2.4906@fx05.iad>

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"Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> Wrote in message:
> The origin of the expression is not known. Conventional wisdom has long 
> fancied it to be the use of kippers (pungent smoked fish) to train 
> hounds to follow a scent, or to divert them from the correct route when 
> hunting; however, modern linguistic research suggests that the term was 
> probably invented in 1807 by English polemicist William Cobbett, 
> referring to one occasion on which he had supposedly used a kipper to 
> divert hounds from chasing a hare, which was never an actual practice of 
> hunters. The phrase was later borrowed to provide a formal name for the 
> logical fallacy and literary device.
> 
> *The more you know*
> 
> 

I had read that it arose from fox hunting, but back then,
 Wikipedia said that
all attempts to connect the limerick with Limerick in Ireland had
 failed.
Now, wikipedia says the opposite.  There are "history
 revisionists," who

like to have a second look at history.  Every American has heard of
George Washington's little hatchet.  The revisionists say that
 there were
no cherry trees on  his father's property.  The story was the
 invention of
an early biographer.

Doug. 
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LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> - 2016-02-22 07:35 -0800
  Re:LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> - 2016-02-23 03:35 +1100
    Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> - 2016-02-23 06:53 -0800
      Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "Jack G." <j.granade@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-23 07:49 -0800
      Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> - 2016-02-25 03:31 +1100
        Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-24 11:49 -0500
          Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-24 21:42 +0100
            Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-02-24 20:56 -0800
              Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-24 23:59 -0500
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-02-24 21:07 -0800
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-25 00:23 -0500
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-02-24 21:51 -0800
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2016-02-24 21:56 -0800
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" pandora <pandora@peak.org> - 2016-02-25 12:03 -0600
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-25 13:04 -0500
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "Jack G." <j.granade@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-25 11:50 -0800
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-25 07:00 +0100
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2016-02-24 22:13 -0800
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-25 06:50 +0100
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-25 01:21 -0500
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-25 17:49 +0100
                Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "Jack G." <j.granade@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-25 09:33 -0800
                TROLLED K0ok IS TROLLED... "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-25 13:01 -0500
                TROLLED K0ok IS TROLLED... "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-25 13:01 -0500
              Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2016-02-24 21:48 -0800
            Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-25 04:15 -0500
        Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> - 2016-02-24 09:21 -0800
          Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "David" <dd@daviddw.com> - 2016-02-24 17:24 -0600
  Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "David" <dd@daviddw.com> - 2016-02-23 17:53 -0600
    Re: LOGICAL FALLACY EXPLAINED: WOT IS A "RED HERRING" "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> - 2016-02-24 09:22 -0800

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