Re: Librecad on RasPiOS

From	rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.raspberry-pi
Subject	Re: Librecad on RasPiOS
Date	2026-06-26 17:51 +0000
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On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 10:05:14 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> I think there is a lot of 'I want do it this way and Wayland cant'
> Without the concomitant 'why on earth are you doing it that way?' and
> 'because that's the only way you can in X windows'.

Technical debt. The Motif GUIs I worked with went back to the '90s and had 
been getting the job done for 30 years or so. We'd looked at moving to a 
more 'modern' widget toolkit but it would have meant a complete rewrite, 
with no real improvement in functionality or even loss of some features. 

In that case the front end was replaced with a browser based Angular app. 
It wasn't always easy to make it work 'the same'. As you know, users are 
very big on 'the same'.

The difference was it was our choice not something forced by distros 
saying they would only support Wayland and not X11. Personally, I don't 
care since I no longer have to work on the GUIs but I can see why KiCad, 
Xfce, or other projects with a long history on X11 get upset by seemingly 
arbitrary Wayland decisions.

The fortunate are those that used Gtk, Qt, or other tool kits that sat on 
X11 but provided a level of abstraction. The headaches get passed to the 
Qt and Gtk developers.

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Librecad on RasPiOS bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-06-22 16:36 +0000
  Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Chris Townley <news@cct-net.co.uk> - 2026-06-22 18:56 +0100
    Re: Librecad on RasPiOS bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-06-22 19:33 +0000
      Re: Librecad on RasPiOS rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-22 20:18 +0000
        Re: Librecad on RasPiOS bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-06-22 21:20 +0000
          Re: Librecad on RasPiOS rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-22 23:29 +0000
          Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 08:29 +0100
      Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Chris Townley <news@cct-net.co.uk> - 2026-06-22 22:48 +0100
  Re: Librecad on RasPiOS 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-06-22 20:11 +0200
    Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-06-22 23:01 +0100
    Re: Librecad on RasPiOS bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-06-22 23:55 +0000
      Re: Librecad on RasPiOS The Nomad <nomad@the.desert.invalid> - 2026-06-23 07:01 +0000
        Re: Librecad on RasPiOS bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-06-23 11:59 +0000
          Re: Librecad on RasPiOS bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-06-24 21:42 +0000
  Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-06-22 20:19 +0100
    Re: Librecad on RasPiOS bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-06-22 20:31 +0000
      Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-06-22 22:55 +0100
        Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-22 22:48 +0000
        Re: Librecad on RasPiOS bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-06-23 00:20 +0000
          Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-23 03:57 +0000
            Re: Librecad on RasPiOS bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-06-23 12:10 +0000
              Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-06-23 13:28 +0100
              Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-24 01:08 +0000
                Re: Librecad on RasPiOS bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-06-24 13:52 +0000
                Re: Librecad on RasPiOS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 16:43 +0100
                Re: Librecad on RasPiOS bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-06-26 14:43 +0000
          Re: Librecad on RasPiOS RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2026-06-23 04:28 +0000
            Re: Librecad on RasPiOS bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-06-23 12:25 +0000
        Re: Librecad on RasPiOS RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2026-06-23 04:22 +0000
          Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-23 07:21 +0000
            Re: Librecad on RasPiOS RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2026-06-23 08:19 +0000
              Re: Librecad on RasPiOS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 10:23 +0100
              Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-24 01:10 +0000
                Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-06-24 13:26 +0100
                Re: Librecad on RasPiOS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 13:44 +0100
                Re: Librecad on RasPiOS scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2026-06-25 16:01 +0000
                Re: Librecad on RasPiOS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-25 17:05 +0100
                Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-25 23:32 +0000
                Re: Librecad on RasPiOS rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-26 02:01 +0000
                Re: Librecad on RasPiOS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-26 10:05 +0100
                Re: Librecad on RasPiOS rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-26 17:51 +0000
                Re: Librecad on RasPiOS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-26 21:51 +0100
                Re: Librecad on RasPiOS scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2026-06-26 20:22 +0000
                Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-24 21:59 +0000
                Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-06-25 14:24 +0100
                Re: Librecad on RasPiOS Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-25 23:31 +0000

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