Re: BBC cuts (round 1?)

From	Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am>
Newsgroups	uk.tech.digital-tv
Subject	Re: BBC cuts (round 1?)
Date	2026-06-22 18:01 +0100
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On 22/06/2026 15:40, Scott wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 15:23:40 +0100, Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 22/06/2026 13:10, Scott wrote:
>>> On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 12:04:18 +0100, Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 22/06/2026 09:56, Roderick Stewart wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 07:29:40 +0100, JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21/06/2026 21:33, Bob Latham wrote:
>>>>>>> The problems with the BBC tax is that it is pretty much though not
>>>>>>> entirely, compulsory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So similar to the Advertising Tax, you to pay it unless you want to only
>>>>>> buy unbranded products and even if you never watch commercial TV or
>>>>>> listen to commercial radio.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You can choose which products to buy without breaking any laws.
>>>>
>>>> Not everything is legal to buy, even if you want it to be.
>>>>
>>>>> You can't choose which broadcasts to watch without breaking any laws,
>>>>> because you're legally required to pay the BBC to watch *any*
>>>>> broadcasts, even if they're nothing to do with the BBC.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, you pay the government.  The money you pay, like any other
>>>> taxation, goes into the Consolidated Fund and can be distributed however
>>>> the government decides.  At present the government passes an amount
>>>> equivalent to what it receives to the Department for Culture, Media and
>>>> Sport which then historically pays it similarly to the BBC.
>>>>
>>>>> The only escape from this nonsense is not to watch broadcasts at all,
>>>>
>>>> ... and not use iPlayer
>>>>
>>>>> and even then you'll be sent frequent threatening letters implying
>>>>> that you're breaking the law even though they don't know anything
>>>>> about you. I only cancelled my TV licence a couple of years ago but
>>>>> I've already got a folder full of these official looking letters,
>>>>> obviously designed to mislead and intimidate, and every single one of
>>>>> them addressed to "The legal occupier".
>>>>
>>>> Quite right too.  It's not a personal licence but a licence for the
>>>> premises, which the great majority do require.
>>>>
>>> Clarify this then. In the old days I believe that battery operated TV
>>> receivers (with the battery wholly enclosed) were exempt from TV
>>> licence.
>>
>> No, that's another misunderstanding.  They were never exempt, nor are
>> they now.  The use of such devices was permitted under the domestic
>> premises licence when away from home.  If you didn't have one, you were
>> acting illegally.
> 
> Thanks for clarifying my understanding. Was there not a fairly
> flexible interpretation whereby students were allowed to use a TV at
> university regardless of whether their parents were watching TV at
> home at the same time?

https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/for-your-home/students-aud1

>>> How do we stand now when nearly everyone has a mobile phone
>>> or a tablet? I thought they required a licence but by your logic if
>>> they are used outdoors they do not. Is a garden classed as 'premises'?
>>
>> Same thing.  You need a TV licence for your home.  Then you'll be
>> covered for any mobile devices away from home.
>>
> When you say 'you' and 'your' I assume you mean everyone living in the
> home. Does this mean living as a sole residence, main residence or
> living there at all? Does it include a holiday home? Does the wholly
> contained battery rule apply, so a device cannot be used for watching
> TV while plugged in?

https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/faqs/FAQ30

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          Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-06-22 13:25 +0100
            Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-06-22 13:29 +0100
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            Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-22 14:12 +0100
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                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-23 09:17 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2026-06-23 09:22 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Indy Jess John <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> - 2026-06-23 09:42 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-23 17:06 +0100
      Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-06-19 11:49 +0100
        Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Indy Jess John <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> - 2026-06-20 11:04 +0100
          Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-22 12:29 +0100
            Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Indy Jess John <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> - 2026-06-22 13:07 +0100
              Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-22 13:15 +0100
  Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-19 16:49 +0100
    Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-06-19 17:31 +0100
      Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-19 18:06 +0100
  Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:41 +0100
    Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-19 20:30 +0100
      Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-20 08:52 +0100
        Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-20 11:04 +0100
      Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-20 09:54 +0100
        Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-20 10:58 +0100
          Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-06-20 14:37 +0100
            Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-20 15:32 +0100
              Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-06-20 16:24 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-20 17:20 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-06-20 17:54 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-20 21:59 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-20 22:02 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-06-20 23:02 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-21 10:40 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-06-21 11:02 +0100
            Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-20 22:03 +0100
          Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-22 12:33 +0100
            Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-23 07:14 +0100
              Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-23 09:19 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-23 09:37 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-23 17:11 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-23 17:33 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-23 20:36 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-06-23 20:57 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-23 22:38 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-06-24 06:17 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-06-24 09:08 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2026-06-24 10:30 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-06-24 13:04 +0100
        Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2026-06-20 12:14 +0100
          Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-06-20 17:13 +0100
          Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-21 08:26 +0100
            Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-06-21 09:27 +0100
              Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2026-06-21 10:46 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-06-21 13:47 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2026-06-21 14:16 +0100
              Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2026-06-21 10:24 +0000
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-06-21 19:32 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2026-06-21 21:33 +0100
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                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2026-06-22 08:56 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2026-06-22 13:45 +0000
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-06-22 17:03 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-22 09:56 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2026-06-22 08:58 +0000
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-22 12:04 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-22 13:10 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-22 15:23 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-22 15:40 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-22 18:01 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-23 07:22 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-23 07:50 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-23 17:12 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> - 2026-06-22 10:13 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-06-22 13:18 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-22 13:29 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> - 2026-06-22 13:56 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2026-06-23 12:35 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-23 12:49 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-06-23 13:24 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2026-06-23 17:34 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-06-24 08:25 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 08:48 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-06-24 09:23 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 13:10 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-24 11:18 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> - 2026-06-25 15:47 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2026-06-22 08:57 +0000
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