Re: BBC cuts (round 1?)

From	Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am>
Newsgroups	uk.tech.digital-tv
Subject	Re: BBC cuts (round 1?)
Date	2026-06-22 15:23 +0100
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On 22/06/2026 13:10, Scott wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 12:04:18 +0100, Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 22/06/2026 09:56, Roderick Stewart wrote:
>>> On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 07:29:40 +0100, JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 21/06/2026 21:33, Bob Latham wrote:
>>>>> The problems with the BBC tax is that it is pretty much though not
>>>>> entirely, compulsory.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So similar to the Advertising Tax, you to pay it unless you want to only
>>>> buy unbranded products and even if you never watch commercial TV or
>>>> listen to commercial radio.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You can choose which products to buy without breaking any laws.
>>
>> Not everything is legal to buy, even if you want it to be.
>>
>>> You can't choose which broadcasts to watch without breaking any laws,
>>> because you're legally required to pay the BBC to watch *any*
>>> broadcasts, even if they're nothing to do with the BBC.
>>
>> Actually, you pay the government.  The money you pay, like any other
>> taxation, goes into the Consolidated Fund and can be distributed however
>> the government decides.  At present the government passes an amount
>> equivalent to what it receives to the Department for Culture, Media and
>> Sport which then historically pays it similarly to the BBC.
>>
>>> The only escape from this nonsense is not to watch broadcasts at all,
>>
>> ... and not use iPlayer
>>
>>> and even then you'll be sent frequent threatening letters implying
>>> that you're breaking the law even though they don't know anything
>>> about you. I only cancelled my TV licence a couple of years ago but
>>> I've already got a folder full of these official looking letters,
>>> obviously designed to mislead and intimidate, and every single one of
>>> them addressed to "The legal occupier".
>>
>> Quite right too.  It's not a personal licence but a licence for the
>> premises, which the great majority do require.
>>
> Clarify this then. In the old days I believe that battery operated TV
> receivers (with the battery wholly enclosed) were exempt from TV
> licence.

No, that's another misunderstanding.  They were never exempt, nor are 
they now.  The use of such devices was permitted under the domestic 
premises licence when away from home.  If you didn't have one, you were 
acting illegally.

> How do we stand now when nearly everyone has a mobile phone
> or a tablet? I thought they required a licence but by your logic if
> they are used outdoors they do not. Is a garden classed as 'premises'?

Same thing.  You need a TV licence for your home.  Then you'll be 
covered for any mobile devices away from home.

Thread

BBC cuts (round 1?) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-17 17:32 +0100
  Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-06-17 21:41 +0100
  Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-06-17 21:46 +0100
    Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Indy Jess John <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> - 2026-06-19 11:14 +0100
      Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-06-19 11:42 +0100
        Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Indy Jess John <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> - 2026-06-20 11:00 +0100
        Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-22 12:44 +0100
          Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-06-22 13:22 +0100
          Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-06-22 13:25 +0100
            Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-06-22 13:29 +0100
            Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-22 13:32 +0100
          Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2026-06-22 13:52 +0100
            Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-22 14:12 +0100
              Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-23 07:10 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-23 09:17 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2026-06-23 09:22 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Indy Jess John <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> - 2026-06-23 09:42 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-23 17:06 +0100
      Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-06-19 11:49 +0100
        Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Indy Jess John <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> - 2026-06-20 11:04 +0100
          Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-22 12:29 +0100
            Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Indy Jess John <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> - 2026-06-22 13:07 +0100
              Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-22 13:15 +0100
  Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-19 16:49 +0100
    Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-06-19 17:31 +0100
      Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-19 18:06 +0100
  Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:41 +0100
    Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-19 20:30 +0100
      Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-20 08:52 +0100
        Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-20 11:04 +0100
      Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-20 09:54 +0100
        Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-20 10:58 +0100
          Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-06-20 14:37 +0100
            Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-20 15:32 +0100
              Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-06-20 16:24 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-20 17:20 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-06-20 17:54 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-20 21:59 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-20 22:02 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-06-20 23:02 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-21 10:40 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-06-21 11:02 +0100
            Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-20 22:03 +0100
          Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-22 12:33 +0100
            Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-23 07:14 +0100
              Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-23 09:19 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-23 09:37 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-23 17:11 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-23 17:33 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-23 20:36 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-06-23 20:57 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-23 22:38 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-06-24 06:17 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-06-24 09:08 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2026-06-24 10:30 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-06-24 13:04 +0100
        Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2026-06-20 12:14 +0100
          Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-06-20 17:13 +0100
          Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-21 08:26 +0100
            Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-06-21 09:27 +0100
              Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2026-06-21 10:46 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-06-21 13:47 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2026-06-21 14:16 +0100
              Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2026-06-21 10:24 +0000
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-06-21 19:32 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2026-06-21 21:33 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-06-22 07:29 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2026-06-22 08:56 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2026-06-22 13:45 +0000
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-06-22 17:03 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-22 09:56 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2026-06-22 08:58 +0000
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-22 12:04 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-22 13:10 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-22 15:23 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-22 15:40 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-22 18:01 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-23 07:22 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-06-23 07:50 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-23 17:12 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> - 2026-06-22 10:13 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-06-22 13:18 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-22 13:29 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> - 2026-06-22 13:56 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2026-06-23 12:35 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-23 12:49 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-06-23 13:24 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2026-06-23 17:34 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-06-24 08:25 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 08:48 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-06-24 09:23 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 13:10 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-06-24 11:18 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> - 2026-06-25 15:47 +0100
                Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2026-06-22 08:57 +0000
        Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-06-21 07:31 +0100
          Re: BBC cuts (round 1?) JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> - 2026-06-21 09:19 +0100

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