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Re: The Bible Inc.

From Axel <none@not.here>
Newsgroups alt.atheism, sci.skeptic, alt.checkmate
Subject Re: The Bible Inc.
Date 2026-06-22 20:52 +1000
Message-ID <n9sifvFpfpkU7@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References <1rwzcs8.hgnidn1l08cp5N%onion@anon.invalid> <1782122259.1133380060@85.12.62.219>

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Tom Mix wrote:
> In article <1rwzcs8.hgnidn1l08cp5N%onion@anon.invalid>, onion@anon.invalid (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mr_=D6n!on?=) wrote:
>
>> JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/19/26 5:28 AM, Attila wrote:
>>>>> If any.
>>> If any...what?
>>> What is your position, as if you have one.
>>> What are you claiming is NOT true because, as you
>>> argue, the bible is not verified?
>>> Be specific. The thread is specific, there is a
>>> context, even if your disorder(s) prevent you
>>> from recognizing it.
>>> What SPECIFICALLY are you arguing AGAINST (or for),
>>> using your meaningless claim that the bible is not
>>> verified?
>>> "THE BIBLE DOESN'T SAY THAT, even though it does,
>>> BECAUSE IT'S NOT VERIFIED so..."
>>> Go on.
>> Without verification there is no proof that the bible is true.
>> Without proof, belief in the bible is no more than blind faith.
>>
>> I believe that when I die I will be sent to a south sea island
>> populated by beautiful dancing wahines in grass skirts.
>>
>> My faith in that belief is every bit as valid as your faith that
>> your bible is true.  Do you agree?  If not, why not.
>>
> Your South Sea island belief and Christianity aren't really in the
> same category.
>
> If I simply invent a paradise with dancing wahines, I have no historical
> documents, no witnesses, no archaeological support, no fulfilled
> predictions, and no chain of transmission connecting my claim to real
> events.
>
> Christianity, whether one accepts it or not, is based on claims about
> people, places, events, and historical figures that can be investigated
> and debated. The question isn't whether Christians have faith; it's
> whether that faith is based on evidence or completely detached from
> evidence.
>
> By your standard, we'd also have to say belief in Julius Caesar,
> Socrates, or countless events in ancient history is just "blind faith"
> because none of us personally witnessed them.

no because there is contemporary evidence for those

>
> The real question isn't whether faith is involved. The question is
> whether all faith is equally justified. I don't think they are.
>


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The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 15:51 -0400
  Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-17 18:12 -0400
    Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 22:15 -0500
      Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-19 05:28 -0400
        Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 14:07 -0400
          Re: The Bible Inc. onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) - 2026-06-19 21:30 +0100
            Re: The Bible Inc. phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 16:19 -0600
              Re: The Bible Inc. phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:45 -0600
                Re: The Bible Inc. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 19:49 -0700
                Re: The Bible Inc. onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) - 2026-06-20 12:40 +0100
              Re: The Bible Inc. onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) - 2026-06-20 02:14 +0100
                Re: The Bible Inc. Tom Mix <tommix@mixmin.net> - 2026-06-22 09:57 +0000
                Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-22 06:44 -0400
                Re: The Bible Inc. "Doc Hammerslack" <dochammerslack@creon.earth> - 2026-06-22 12:03 +0000
                Re: The Bible Inc. Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-06-22 20:52 +1000
                Re: The Bible Inc. Samuel Spade <sam@spade.invalid> - 2026-06-22 16:28 -0700
                Re: The Bible Inc. Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-06-23 18:02 +1000
              Re: The Bible Inc. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 19:50 -0700
                Re: The Bible Inc. Skeeter <invalid@none.com> - 2026-06-19 20:58 -0600
            Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 23:26 -0400
              Re: The Bible Inc. onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) - 2026-06-20 12:44 +0100
                Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 13:02 -0500
                Re: The Bible Inc. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-06-21 18:52 +0000
                Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 18:13 -0500
                Re: The Bible Inc. onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) - 2026-06-22 01:42 +0100
                Re: The Bible Inc. Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-06-22 19:39 +1000
                Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 12:50 -0500
                Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 00:27 -0400
                Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-23 06:12 -0400
                Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 10:39 -0400
                Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-24 14:29 -0400
                Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 12:19 -0400
                Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-26 18:10 -0400
                Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 16:28 -0500
                Re: The Bible Inc. onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) - 2026-06-23 11:26 +0100
                Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 10:07 -0500
          Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-20 00:57 -0400
            Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 00:20 -0400
              Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-23 06:17 -0400
                Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 10:43 -0400
                Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-24 14:33 -0400
                Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 17:29 -0400
                Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-26 18:17 -0400
                Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-27 11:58 -0500
      Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 14:03 -0400
        Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 06:49 -0500
          Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-20 09:09 -0400
            Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 17:50 -0500
              Re: The Bible Inc. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-06-21 14:01 +0000
          Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 00:29 -0400
            Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 10:22 -0500
    Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 14:01 -0400
      Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-20 01:00 -0400
        Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 00:23 -0400
          Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-23 06:27 -0400
            Re: The Bible Inc. Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-06-23 23:52 +1000
              Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-23 18:47 -0400
                Re: The Bible Inc. onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) - 2026-06-24 00:36 +0100
                Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-24 06:27 -0400
          Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 10:10 -0500
            Re: The Bible Inc. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-06-23 17:38 +0000

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