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| From | Tom Mix <tommix@mixmin.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.atheism, sci.skeptic, alt.checkmate |
| Subject | Re: The Bible Inc. |
| Organization | Order of the Eternal Bait |
| Message-ID | <1782122259.1133380060@85.12.62.219> (permalink) |
| References | <1rwzcs8.hgnidn1l08cp5N%onion@anon.invalid> |
| Date | 2026-06-22 09:57 +0000 |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
In article <1rwzcs8.hgnidn1l08cp5N%onion@anon.invalid>, onion@anon.invalid (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mr_=D6n!on?=) wrote: > JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 6/19/26 5:28 AM, Attila wrote: >> > >>> > If any. >> > >> If any...what? >> > >> What is your position, as if you have one. >> > >> What are you claiming is NOT true because, as you >> argue, the bible is not verified? >> > >> Be specific. The thread is specific, there is a >> context, even if your disorder(s) prevent you >> from recognizing it. >> > >> What SPECIFICALLY are you arguing AGAINST (or for), >> using your meaningless claim that the bible is not >> verified? >> > >> "THE BIBLE DOESN'T SAY THAT, even though it does, >> BECAUSE IT'S NOT VERIFIED so..." >> > >> Go on. >> > > > Without verification there is no proof that the bible is true. > Without proof, belief in the bible is no more than blind faith. > > I believe that when I die I will be sent to a south sea island > populated by beautiful dancing wahines in grass skirts. > > My faith in that belief is every bit as valid as your faith that > your bible is true. Do you agree? If not, why not. > Your South Sea island belief and Christianity aren't really in the same category. If I simply invent a paradise with dancing wahines, I have no historical documents, no witnesses, no archaeological support, no fulfilled predictions, and no chain of transmission connecting my claim to real events. Christianity, whether one accepts it or not, is based on claims about people, places, events, and historical figures that can be investigated and debated. The question isn't whether Christians have faith; it's whether that faith is based on evidence or completely detached from evidence. By your standard, we'd also have to say belief in Julius Caesar, Socrates, or countless events in ancient history is just "blind faith" because none of us personally witnessed them. The real question isn't whether faith is involved. The question is whether all faith is equally justified. I don't think they are. -- Tom Mix
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The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 15:51 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-17 18:12 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 22:15 -0500
Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-19 05:28 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 14:07 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) - 2026-06-19 21:30 +0100
Re: The Bible Inc. phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 16:19 -0600
Re: The Bible Inc. phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:45 -0600
Re: The Bible Inc. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 19:49 -0700
Re: The Bible Inc. onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) - 2026-06-20 12:40 +0100
Re: The Bible Inc. onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) - 2026-06-20 02:14 +0100
Re: The Bible Inc. Tom Mix <tommix@mixmin.net> - 2026-06-22 09:57 +0000
Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-22 06:44 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. "Doc Hammerslack" <dochammerslack@creon.earth> - 2026-06-22 12:03 +0000
Re: The Bible Inc. Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-06-22 20:52 +1000
Re: The Bible Inc. Samuel Spade <sam@spade.invalid> - 2026-06-22 16:28 -0700
Re: The Bible Inc. Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-06-23 18:02 +1000
Re: The Bible Inc. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 19:50 -0700
Re: The Bible Inc. Skeeter <invalid@none.com> - 2026-06-19 20:58 -0600
Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 23:26 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) - 2026-06-20 12:44 +0100
Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 13:02 -0500
Re: The Bible Inc. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-06-21 18:52 +0000
Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 18:13 -0500
Re: The Bible Inc. onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) - 2026-06-22 01:42 +0100
Re: The Bible Inc. Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-06-22 19:39 +1000
Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 12:50 -0500
Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 00:27 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-23 06:12 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 10:39 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-24 14:29 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 12:19 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-26 18:10 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 16:28 -0500
Re: The Bible Inc. onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) - 2026-06-23 11:26 +0100
Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 10:07 -0500
Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-20 00:57 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 00:20 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-23 06:17 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 10:43 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-24 14:33 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 17:29 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-26 18:17 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-27 11:58 -0500
Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 14:03 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 06:49 -0500
Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-20 09:09 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 17:50 -0500
Re: The Bible Inc. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-06-21 14:01 +0000
Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 00:29 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 10:22 -0500
Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 14:01 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-20 01:00 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 00:23 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-23 06:27 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-06-23 23:52 +1000
Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-23 18:47 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) - 2026-06-24 00:36 +0100
Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-24 06:27 -0400
Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 10:10 -0500
Re: The Bible Inc. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-06-23 17:38 +0000
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