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Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap.

From kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.free.newsservers, alt.usenet.kooks, sci.physics
Subject Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap.
Date 2016-01-30 01:25 -0500
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On 30/01/2016 12:07 AM, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:

> The infrared atmospheric window is the overall dynamic property of the
> earth's atmosphere, taken as a whole at each place and occasion of
> interest, that lets some infrared radiation from the cloud tops and
> land-sea surface pass directly to space without intermediate
> absorption and re-emission, and thus without heating the atmosphere.

 From the cloud tops. Means the cloud tops themselves are opaque at 
those wavelengths. Means clouds trap heat. The infrared atmospheric 
window is an observation that *clear, cloudless air* does not trap heat.

>> Have you ever noticed that it's warmer on cloudy winter nights than on
>> clear winter nights? Do you realize that you just k'lamed that it isn't,
>> even though it is? That's your kOok kAlling kArd, and a sign that you
>> may end up in the running for February's Loony Maroon if you keep
>> screeding like this.
>
> What about "That only relatively thin high-level cirrus and
> altostratus clouds would result in net warming, whereas over the
> glaciers, the clouds tend to be low-level and thus contribute to net
> cooling?" don't you understand, LunkHead?

http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/cloudiness.htm

"The effects of cloud cover on temperature is a familiar experience. 
Without a cloud cover in an area the temperature drops sharply at night 
whereas with clouds the temperature drop is noticeably more moderate. On 
the other hand in the daytime in the summer with no clouds the 
temperature goes much higher than it does when there is a cloud cover."

Clouds by day cool. Clouds by night warm. And:

"The effect of clouds depends upon their type and the time of day. The 
more interesting and important type is the low thick clouds. At night 
the reflection effect is zero so the greenhouse effect and reflection of 
thermal radiation dominate and the low thick clouds have a warming effect."

Put more simply, you are wrong. Lunkhead.

*snicker*

-- 
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here."                                                     ~Checkmate

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More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-01-28 18:17 -0500
  Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2016-01-28 19:10 -0500
    Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2016-01-29 00:17 +0000
      Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-01-28 21:14 -0800
        Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2016-01-29 05:37 +0000
          Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-01-28 22:24 -0800
  Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-01-29 06:23 +0100
    Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-29 02:56 -0700
    Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-01-29 14:45 -0500
      Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-01-30 06:07 +0100
        Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-01-30 01:25 -0500
          Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-01-30 16:43 +0100
            Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-01-30 17:16 -0500
              Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2016-01-30 17:57 -0500
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-01-31 19:53 +0000
              Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-01-30 19:03 -0800
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-02-01 17:10 +0000
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-01 18:41 +0100
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-01 11:07 -0700
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-01 13:25 -0500
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-01 11:31 -0700
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-01 13:43 -0500
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-01 11:51 -0700
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-01 14:08 -0500
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-02 08:19 +0100
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-02-01 15:50 -0500
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-01 15:59 -0500
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-02 07:38 +0100
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-02-02 02:08 -0500
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-02 16:30 +0100
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-02 08:53 -0700
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe, DoW #2) - 2016-02-02 17:21 +0000
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. pandora <pandora@peak.org> - 2016-02-02 11:33 -0600
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-02-02 22:21 -0800
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-02-02 16:55 -0500
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-02-02 16:44 -0800
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-03 04:52 +0100
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-02-03 00:14 -0500
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-03 07:07 +0100
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-03 00:45 -0700
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-03 04:26 -0500
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-02 05:03 -0700
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2016-02-02 04:11 -0800
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-02-03 23:17 -0800
              Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-01-31 05:26 +0100
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-30 22:15 -0700
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-01-31 00:37 -0500
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-01-30 22:42 -0800
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-01 17:00 +0100
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-02-01 15:54 -0500
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-01 16:03 -0500
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-01 14:09 -0700
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-02 07:28 +0100
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-02-02 02:09 -0500
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-02 17:32 +0100
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-02 12:56 -0700
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-02-03 23:14 -0800
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-02-02 16:59 -0500
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-02-02 16:45 -0800
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-03 05:10 +0100
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-02 23:24 -0500
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-02-03 00:17 -0500
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-02-02 21:49 -0800
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-03 06:51 +0100
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-03 00:44 -0700
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe, DoW #2) - 2016-02-03 07:19 +0000
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-03 00:41 -0700
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-02-03 00:47 -0800
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe, DoW #2) - 2016-02-03 08:57 +0000
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-03 04:26 -0500
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-03 02:38 -0700
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-03 18:33 +0100
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-03 11:18 -0700
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-03 04:26 -0500
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-02-03 23:12 -0800
  Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Antonio Santana <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-29 10:52 -0500
    Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. MartinS <me@my.place.invalid> - 2016-01-29 11:49 -0500
    Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-01-29 17:41 -0800
      Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2016-01-29 20:56 -0500
        Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-01-29 19:56 -0800
          Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2016-01-30 17:58 -0500
            Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-01-30 18:53 -0800

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