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Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad

From Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad
Date 2016-01-28 10:46 -0500
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On 2016-01-28 10:16 AM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
> On 2016-01-28, Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thursday, January 28, 2016 at 10:36:09 AM UTC+9, DFS wrote:
>>> On 1/27/2016 8:25 AM, shitv wrote:
>>>
>>>> Linux would be out of it, were it not for the strong demand for tools
>>>> that are more capable and flexible than those provided by Microsoft.
>>>
>>>
>>> Capability and flexibility has NOTHING to do with it.  Linux would've 
>>> died long ago were it not given away for free, with source code.
>>
>> Not now when the whole Google and smart phone market are based on it...  But l
> et Google pay royalty for using the Kernel code and the company may collapse afterall.  All those nut companies driving the stock market novadays like Google, F
> 
>    Google would have no problems paying royalties.
> 
>    Nor would anyone else that gets Linux for free.
> 
>    What such a thing would actually mean in the big picture is a single entity
> that Microsoft could attack, undermine, and run out of business. THAT is far 
> more important than whether or not people pay Linus.
> 
> [deletia]
> 
>    Linux survives because it's not like Atari, or Be, or IBM, or Sun, or Apple,
> or any of the other platforms/companies that Win/DOS juggernaut killed.

How did Microsoft kill Atari? Was it Microsoft's fault that they didn't
bother to keep up with technological changes and made few significant
improvements to the platform? At a time when the PC could format disks
at 1.44MB, Atari will still at 720KB. Twice the amount of disks for no
reason. Its platform also lacked quality third-party software as a
result of the company doing nothing to counter rampant piracy. How is
this Microsoft's fault JEDIDIAH? As for Be, it's not Microsoft's fault
that the owner of the company was too much of a moron to accept Apple's
large offer and insisted on getting double at the last minute. Whether
you like to admit it or not, Be was already dead when it ported the
operating system to x86. IBM died of its own incompetence as Microsoft
backed away from OS/2 in 1990 when Windows hadn't yet become so
powerful. IBM had more resources and a great amount of time to fix the
upcoming situation and they did little to nothing, still not Microsoft's
fault. As for Apple, I would love for you to explain how Microsoft
killed Apple in the 1990s when it fact it saved the company when they
were about to die of insignificance by vowing to port Office to the
platform in addition to injecting capital into the company when they
needed it most. Besides, it's not Microsoft's fault that Apple took so
long to come up with a decent operating system to replace the aging
Classic system.

< snip >


-- 
Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Conservative Party of Canada, Mozilla &
PETA supporter

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Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-23 15:40 -0500
  Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-23 16:23 -0500
  Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-23 21:37 +0000
    Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-23 16:49 -0500
      Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-23 22:35 +0000
        Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-23 20:56 -0500
    Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-23 20:25 -0500
      Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-01-24 01:47 +0000
      Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-24 03:30 +0100
        Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-24 10:17 -0500
        Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-24 10:56 -0700
        Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 17:14 -0800
          Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-27 02:21 +0100
            Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 21:57 -0800
              Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-27 05:49 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-27 07:25 -0600
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-27 20:35 -0500
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 22:26 -0800
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-28 05:43 -0500
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-28 07:38 -0600
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-28 09:26 -0600
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-29 12:47 -0500
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-29 18:18 +0000
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-29 18:38 -0500
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-29 23:52 +0000
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-30 11:55 -0500
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 23:52 -0800
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-28 20:27 -0500
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-02-09 22:02 -0500
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-28 09:16 -0600
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-28 10:46 -0500
                Re: Anti-Linux trolls: still spectacularly bad fuckwits William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-01-28 23:08 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 13:26 -0700
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Penny Tration <fedora_the_explora@asia.com> - 2016-01-28 02:13 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-28 09:10 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-28 10:40 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-28 09:49 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-22 12:13 -0700
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Penny Tration <fedora_the_explora@asia.com> - 2016-01-28 17:25 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-28 13:28 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-28 14:22 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad "1 eyed chicken" <chicken@gmail.com> - 2016-01-28 22:31 +0100
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-01-28 23:07 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-28 20:23 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-29 06:46 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-29 13:16 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-28 20:21 -0500
                Linux Liars On Patrol. Penny Tration <fedora_the_explora@asia.com> - 2016-01-29 20:07 +0000
                Re: Linux Liars On Patrol. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-29 16:55 -0600
                Re: Linux Liars On Patrol. Penny Tration <fedora_the_explora@asia.com> - 2016-01-29 23:13 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-28 12:31 -0700
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-28 14:49 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-28 21:09 +0100
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-28 14:17 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-22 12:13 -0700
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-28 20:01 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-29 03:07 +0100
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-29 12:22 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-29 08:35 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-29 13:05 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-29 19:27 +0100
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-29 20:28 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 02:35 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad mike antipasto <pizzadude@mycomputerrox.org> - 2016-01-29 21:42 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-30 03:08 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-30 05:50 +0100
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-30 00:13 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-30 06:18 +0100
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-30 00:19 -0500
                Troll -- nasty, thick-headed know-nothings ranting about Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-30 08:12 -0500
                Re: Troll -- nasty, thick-headed know-nothings ranting about Linux chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-01 07:52 -0600
                Advantage:  Linux chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-01 10:35 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-01 07:24 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-30 00:07 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-29 18:52 +0000
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-30 08:54 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-28 20:31 -0500
                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-28 20:44 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-29 03:02 +0100
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-29 07:46 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-28 21:07 -0500
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-29 07:00 -0600
                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-02-09 22:02 -0500
            Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-27 07:47 -0500
            Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 13:25 -0700
          Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad kubuntuking@gmail.com - 2016-01-27 08:18 -0800
            Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-27 13:06 -0500
      Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-26 16:03 +0000
        Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-26 19:52 -0500
          Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-27 00:56 +0000
            Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-27 20:49 -0500
          Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 13:28 -0700
  Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-24 10:53 -0700
  Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad kubuntuking@gmail.com - 2016-01-27 08:15 -0800
    Troll craphead: still spectacularly bad (and incompetent) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-27 12:48 -0500
      Re: Troll craphead: still spectacularly bad (and incompetent) and proud of it! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-27 12:35 -0600
        Re: Troll craphead: still spectacularly bad (and incompetent) and proud of it! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-27 20:37 -0500
      Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-27 20:46 -0500

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