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Re: The mass of the sun II

From R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com>
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Subject Re: The mass of the sun II
Date 2016-01-16 09:10 +0000
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Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> The mass of the sun II
> The standard method to calculate the mass of the sun is by the formula
> M = 4(3.14159265359)^2*(149597870700)^3/((6.674E-11)(365*24*60*60)^2) with 
a result of 1.98846548016881E+30 using the standard value of AU of 149,597,870,700 m.
> But in the course of a year AU changes from 147,100,176,000 m in January
> to 152,103,775,000 m in July because the orbit of the earth is not circular.
> The consequence is that the mass of the sun varies by this method of 
calculation by 10.56% from aphelion to perihelion. It is a major systemic error.
> A better method can be used instead in two steps: 
> First calculate GM by the formula GM = r*v^2 using the distances and velocities 
> of nine solar planets which have been adjusted for the eccentric orbits of the nine planets. The result for GM in each instance is 1.32716E+20.

You may need to consider more adjustments.

The giant planets affect the orbital periods of the inner planets. It's a pretty
big effect -- equivalent to adjusting the mass of the sun by 1/3 of Jupiter's mass.
I.e. unless taken into account the solar mass can only be accurate to ~4 sig figures.


>...

-- 
-- http://www.ec.gc.ca/adsc-cmda/default.asp?lang=En&n=188031DB-1
The time series graph (below) shows that, when averaged across the nation, 
annual temperatures have fluctuated from year to year over the period 1948-
2014. The linear trend indicates that annual temperatures averaged across 
the nation have warmed by 1.6?C over the past 67 years.
<http://www.ec.gc.ca/adsc-cmda/188031DB-BA85-4FB5-9923-46076E0E4C56/
CTVB_annual_2014_temp_graph_e.jpg>

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The mass of the sun II Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-15 21:43 -0800
  Re: The mass of the sun II Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 07:46 +0100
    Re: The mass of the sun II Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-16 01:24 -0800
  Re: The mass of the sun II R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2016-01-16 09:10 +0000
  Re: The mass of the sun II Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 10:51 -0600
    Re: The mass of the sun II Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-16 15:21 -0800
      Re: The mass of the sun II Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 18:13 -0600
  Re: The mass of the sun II Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 11:15 -0600
    Re: The mass of the sun II Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-16 15:25 -0800
      Re: The mass of the sun II Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 18:16 -0600
        Re: The mass of the sun II Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-17 00:24 -0800
          Re: The mass of the sun II Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 12:08 -0600
            Re: The mass of the sun II Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-17 10:25 -0800
              Re: The mass of the sun II Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 12:36 -0600
                Re: The mass of the sun II Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-17 10:51 -0800

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