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Re: Future Advances in Physics...

From Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics
Subject Re: Future Advances in Physics...
Date 2015-12-23 22:04 +0000
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Odd Bodkin wrote:

>> You may ask him all you want, Oddy. It will not change anything. And
>> the mechanism used, channels or the procedure, in case that he had one,
>> is totally irrelevant.
>>
>>
> Well, it's completely relevant to me. What was Geller was not the event

Completely irrelevant for the phenomenon what is relevant for you. The man 
has his 10 millions and no relevance in the world can change it.

> but the ability. The ability is what needs to be verified. That is done
> by his explanation of what it is he's doing, and then testing that
> explanation. This seems to be a .... how shall I say it? ... scientific
> approach.

No Oddy. it is not. It can't be verified, without violating the 1st 
amendment saying that it is an one-time shot. What are you going to do, 
take the 10 million away from him demanding to do it again?

> Now, I get that some people go see magician's shows, and they get very
> entertained when the magician does something surprising and then
> meticulously rules out the explanations you might have had in your head.
> But then to say, "Well, I guess he did it by magic!" seems to be just
> buying into the hokum.

Randi was a faker, never understood too much. Dealt only with tricks and 
easy things, like bending spoons and such. He ran away from real stuff, 
and nobody ever see a penny from that million dollar challenge.

    "We plan on continuing the Million Dollar" if you can bend a spoon.

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Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 02:38 -0500
  Re: Future Advances in Physics... mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-12-15 23:54 -0800
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-16 05:10 -0800
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-12-16 06:27 -0800
  Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 07:46 -0600
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-12-16 06:27 -0800
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 16:06 +0100
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 09:22 -0600
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 13:08 -0500
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 12:36 -0600
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 13:01 -0600
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-16 20:08 +0000
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-16 20:11 +0000
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-16 22:09 +0100
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-16 22:08 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-16 21:17 +0000
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-16 21:21 +0000
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-12-16 18:39 +0100
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 13:04 -0500
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 12:19 -0600
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-17 01:37 +0100
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 10:09 -0800
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 12:38 -0600
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 20:47 -0800
  Re: Future Advances in Physics... Bill Miller <KT4YE@YAHOO.COM> - 2015-12-16 09:58 -0500
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 13:06 -0500
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-16 20:26 +0100
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Bill Miller" <kt4ye@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-20 11:27 -0500
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-16 20:18 +0100
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 00:45 -0500
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-17 07:27 +0100
  Re: Future Advances in Physics... gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-16 10:08 -0600
  Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 13:40 -0600
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 01:04 -0500
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 10:43 -0600
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 20:16 -0500
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-12-16 23:17 -0800
  Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-17 03:42 +0100
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 01:23 -0500
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-17 21:54 +0100
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 20:00 -0500
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-18 05:49 +0100
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 04:43 -0500
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-18 20:26 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 22:36 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-19 05:51 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 00:55 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-20 08:05 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-20 02:26 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-20 12:04 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-20 16:37 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 01:57 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-22 05:48 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-19 12:00 +0100
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 09:11 -0600
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-17 22:04 +0100
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-17 21:07 +0000
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 15:35 -0600
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-18 05:17 +0100
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 07:45 -0600
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-18 20:29 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 13:52 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-18 21:23 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 14:50 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-20 12:54 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 01:51 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-22 05:12 +0100
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 21:39 -0500
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-19 15:00 -0800
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-19 15:05 -0800
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-19 16:27 -0800
  Re: Future Advances in Physics... Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-12-18 10:58 -0600
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Ezra Farrow <ezrafa@dubtechno.org> - 2015-12-18 18:02 +0000
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-12-18 13:17 -0600
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Ezra Farrow <ezrafa@dubtechno.org> - 2015-12-18 22:01 +0000
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 18:14 -0800
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... Ezra Farrow <ezrafa@dubtechno.org> - 2015-12-19 11:13 +0000
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 09:59 -0800
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 22:24 -0500
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-19 11:51 +0100
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 13:36 -0500
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-12-19 17:54 -0600
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-20 02:20 -0500
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-20 10:51 +0100
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 02:17 -0500
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-21 12:07 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 13:53 -0500
  Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 23:39 -0500
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-19 06:52 +0100
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 01:43 -0500
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 00:23 -0800
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... "szczepan  bialek" <sz.bialek@wp.pl> - 2015-12-19 09:48 +0100
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 13:33 -0500
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 13:32 -0500
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-19 21:06 +0100
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-20 01:47 -0500
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-20 10:36 +0100
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 02:55 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-21 11:50 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... "szczepan  bialek" <sz.bialek@wp.pl> - 2015-12-21 18:08 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 12:17 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 13:22 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-21 20:02 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 21:26 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-22 21:56 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 23:46 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 08:19 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-23 06:46 -0800
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-23 14:52 +0000
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 10:02 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-23 17:11 +0000
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 11:32 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-23 18:00 +0000
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 12:26 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-23 19:03 +0000
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 13:47 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-23 22:04 +0000
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 16:29 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-23 22:53 +0000
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 14:10 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 13:49 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 22:03 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 11:00 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 21:17 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 12:39 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-12-23 23:46 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-24 15:15 +0000
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Don Kelly <dhky@shaw.ca> - 2015-12-24 18:24 -0800
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 22:18 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Don Kelly <dhky@shaw.ca> - 2015-12-25 15:54 -0800
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 03:58 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-26 11:35 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-25 10:50 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-12-25 11:46 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-25 20:28 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-25 03:09 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-25 04:00 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-25 11:01 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-25 14:39 -0500
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