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Re: Future Advances in Physics...

From	Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups	sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics.electromag, alt.sci.physics
Subject	Re: Future Advances in Physics...
Date	2015-12-19 05:51 +0100
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Am 19.12.2015 04:36, schrieb benj:

>> German laws forbid 'Holocaust denial' (for example). But in fact, that
>> was not my plan. Actually have no reason to question Nazi crimes and do
>> not want to deny anything.
>>
>> But I can question other things. Here the subject was, whether or not
>> certain elitist groups from the English aristocracy are somehow involved
>> in Naziism.
>
> Well, perhaps you need to look a bit closer. Germany is particularly
> sensitive about the Nazi era (for understandable reasons) and there have
> been bone-fide historians trying to research and write a history of that
> era who have run afoul of bureaucratic excesses of the law also
> obviously with no intention of denying anything.
>
>> And, sure, some have been involved. E.g. then king of England was a
>> famous Nazi supporter (why he had to resign).
>>
>> Also Diana and Unity Midfort have been high in the British aristocracy.
>
> Not to mention the name change earlier to Windsor to hide the German blood.
>
>> The idea of 'Mein Kampf' being a translation from English to German
>> stems from a regular named 'Topaz' in 'alt.conspiracy', who often quotes
>> 'My Struggle'.
>>
>> Since I speak (of course) German, I can read both (English and German
>> version). It is immediately obvious, that the English version is written
>> much better. The German version is a real pain to read and has this
>> typical 'Hitler style'. And this can only be, if the German version is a
>> translation from English.
>
> This is a very interesting theory which I've never heard before,
> although I must admit it makes perfect sense.


The book 'Mein Kampf' is not absolutely, but almost, illegal in Germany.

Also there is little reason to obtain and actually read this book, since 
- after all - the Germans are not particularly proud about the Nazis.

And then: Germany was occupied by US, UK and USSR  troops.

They confiscated all available copies of Nazi-literature (several 
hundred titles) and among them (obviously) 'Mein Kampf'.

So Germans could not read this book and actually didn't want.

Other people could read this book, but not in German, since that 
language is spoken mainly in Germany, Austria and Swiss.

So most readers read 'My Struggle' and had neither reason nor ability to 
read 'Mein Kampf'.

And these readers had the impression of a well written book. German 
readers, on the other hand, had to fight with sleep, if they read more 
than a page.

So it was at its time a typical coffee-table-book, which nobody really 
have read. But everybody had a copy and NEVER admitted, not to read it.

And critique of any kind on this book could cause the secret police 
knock at your door, early in the morning. So this didn't happen.

But the Brits made an extremely stupid mistake: the book had to be 
reversely translated from German to English again, before it could be 
published. The original version is 'toxic' in public hands.


TH

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Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 02:38 -0500
  Re: Future Advances in Physics... mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-12-15 23:54 -0800
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-16 05:10 -0800
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-12-16 06:27 -0800
  Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 07:46 -0600
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-12-16 06:27 -0800
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 16:06 +0100
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 09:22 -0600
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 13:08 -0500
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 12:36 -0600
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 13:01 -0600
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-16 20:08 +0000
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-16 20:11 +0000
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-16 22:09 +0100
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-16 22:08 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-16 21:17 +0000
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-16 21:21 +0000
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-12-16 18:39 +0100
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 13:04 -0500
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 12:19 -0600
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-17 01:37 +0100
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 10:09 -0800
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 12:38 -0600
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 20:47 -0800
  Re: Future Advances in Physics... Bill Miller <KT4YE@YAHOO.COM> - 2015-12-16 09:58 -0500
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 13:06 -0500
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-16 20:26 +0100
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Bill Miller" <kt4ye@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-20 11:27 -0500
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-16 20:18 +0100
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 00:45 -0500
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-17 07:27 +0100
  Re: Future Advances in Physics... gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-16 10:08 -0600
  Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 13:40 -0600
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 01:04 -0500
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 10:43 -0600
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 20:16 -0500
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-12-16 23:17 -0800
  Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-17 03:42 +0100
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 01:23 -0500
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-17 21:54 +0100
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 20:00 -0500
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-18 05:49 +0100
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 04:43 -0500
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-18 20:26 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 22:36 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-19 05:51 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 00:55 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-20 08:05 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-20 02:26 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-20 12:04 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-20 16:37 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 01:57 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-22 05:48 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-19 12:00 +0100
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 09:11 -0600
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-17 22:04 +0100
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-17 21:07 +0000
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 15:35 -0600
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-18 05:17 +0100
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 07:45 -0600
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-18 20:29 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 13:52 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-18 21:23 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 14:50 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-20 12:54 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 01:51 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-22 05:12 +0100
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 21:39 -0500
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-19 15:00 -0800
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-19 15:05 -0800
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-19 16:27 -0800
  Re: Future Advances in Physics... Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-12-18 10:58 -0600
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Ezra Farrow <ezrafa@dubtechno.org> - 2015-12-18 18:02 +0000
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-12-18 13:17 -0600
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Ezra Farrow <ezrafa@dubtechno.org> - 2015-12-18 22:01 +0000
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 18:14 -0800
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... Ezra Farrow <ezrafa@dubtechno.org> - 2015-12-19 11:13 +0000
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 09:59 -0800
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 22:24 -0500
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-19 11:51 +0100
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 13:36 -0500
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-12-19 17:54 -0600
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-20 02:20 -0500
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-20 10:51 +0100
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 02:17 -0500
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-21 12:07 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 13:53 -0500
  Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 23:39 -0500
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-19 06:52 +0100
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 01:43 -0500
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 00:23 -0800
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... "szczepan  bialek" <sz.bialek@wp.pl> - 2015-12-19 09:48 +0100
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 13:33 -0500
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 13:32 -0500
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-19 21:06 +0100
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-20 01:47 -0500
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-20 10:36 +0100
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 02:55 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-21 11:50 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... "szczepan  bialek" <sz.bialek@wp.pl> - 2015-12-21 18:08 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 12:17 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 13:22 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-21 20:02 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 21:26 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-22 21:56 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 23:46 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 08:19 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-23 06:46 -0800
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-23 14:52 +0000
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 10:02 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-23 17:11 +0000
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 11:32 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-23 18:00 +0000
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 12:26 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-23 19:03 +0000
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 13:47 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-23 22:04 +0000
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 16:29 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-23 22:53 +0000
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 14:10 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 13:49 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 22:03 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 11:00 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 21:17 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 12:39 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-12-23 23:46 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-24 15:15 +0000
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Don Kelly <dhky@shaw.ca> - 2015-12-24 18:24 -0800
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 22:18 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Don Kelly <dhky@shaw.ca> - 2015-12-25 15:54 -0800
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 03:58 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-26 11:35 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-25 10:50 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-12-25 11:46 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-25 20:28 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-25 03:09 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-25 04:00 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-25 11:01 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-25 14:39 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Bill Miller" <kt4ye@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-22 18:17 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 23:10 -0800
  Re: Future Advances in Physics... jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-01-22 15:57 -0800

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