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Re: Ergodic Mechanical Systems

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Ergodic Mechanical Systems
Date 2015-11-25 10:25 -0600
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On 11/25/2015 9:19 AM, john wrote:
> When people were trying to figure out
> what atoms were doing, one of the
> goals was to come up with a model
> for Benzene. This was never
> accomplished,

I disagree.

> and we settled for
> hand waving ("delocalized electrons").

Not handwaving at all. The model completely agrees in quantitative 
detail with measurement. The fact that you cannot follow it does not 
turn it into handwaving.

It's a cheap tactic to go blind the minute math appears and then you 
say, "Math tricks! Math tricks! The second you introduce math it's just 
handwaving!"

> The defenders of this say, "Oh, it
> works for metals, too!!" What total
> "Math is real" crap!


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Ergodic Mechanical Systems Lorn James <jl33@query.info> - 2015-11-25 00:00 +0000
  Ergodic Mechanical Systems john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 07:19 -0800
    Re: Ergodic Mechanical Systems Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 10:25 -0600
      Re: Ergodic Mechanical Systems john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 09:54 -0800
        Re: Ergodic Mechanical Systems Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 12:30 -0600
          Re: Ergodic Mechanical Systems john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 10:45 -0800
            Re: Ergodic Mechanical Systems Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 13:14 -0600
              Re: Ergodic Mechanical Systems john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 11:50 -0800
                Re: Ergodic Mechanical Systems Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 14:40 -0600
                Re: Ergodic Mechanical Systems Lester Thorpe <lt11@thorpe.info> - 2015-11-26 01:07 +0000
                Re: Ergodic Mechanical Systems benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 20:51 -0500
                Re: Ergodic Mechanical Systems Lester Thorpe <lt11@thorpe.info> - 2015-11-26 02:46 +0000
                Re: Ergodic Mechanical Systems Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-26 01:31 +0000
                Re: Ergodic Mechanical Systems Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 19:53 -0600
                Re: Ergodic Mechanical Systems benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-26 01:51 -0500
                Re: Ergodic Mechanical Systems Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-11 22:18 +0100
                Re: Ergodic Mechanical Systems Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 15:44 -0600
                Re: Ergodic Mechanical Systems Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-12 20:50 +0100
                Re: Ergodic Mechanical Systems Lester Thorpe <lt11@thorpe.info> - 2015-11-26 02:50 +0000

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