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Re: Advantage, Linux

From Desk Rabbit <me@example.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Advantage, Linux
Date 2015-11-18 12:51 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On 18/11/2015 12:32, Ezekiel wrote:
> "Desk Rabbit" <me@example.com> wrote in message
> news:n2hp6m$o25$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org...
>> On 18/11/2015 11:09, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> Run aptitude, refresh the package status, see over 1 Gb of updates (this
>>> is
>>> Debian unstable), start the timer....
>>>
>>> .... 11 minutes later, update done.
>>>
>>> I shudder to think how long this update would take on
>>> <laughing> Windows.
>>>
>
> "giggle" - What is it with weirdos like Ahlstrom that they have to <laugh>
> and <giggle> all the time?
>
>    I got a big laugh out of the Surface add where they boast about the USB
>    port, showing someone carrying one with a big blue *dongle* <laughing>
>    hanging off of it, like it was exposing itself.
>
> There's nothing funnier that a "big blue *dongle* <laughing>" that's
> "exposing itself" in a television commercial for a laptop computer.
>
> It doesn't get any weirder than this.
>
>
>> Why does it even matter, who sits looking at their machine doing updates?
>> I bet you love sitting and watching paint dry as well.
>
> There's a difference in distributing an update that has to work on many
> 100's of millions of consumer machines and a Debian update to a small number
> of geeks. If one particular update causes problems/breaks something then
> it's easy to undo and uninstall one specific update. With aptitude, not
> exactly easy to do.
>
> "Works for me" doesn't cut it. What happens to work on one machine doesn't
> mean it'll work on many 100's of millions of machines without a need to undo
> an update.
>
> The time an update takes isn't all that interesting. This multi-tasking
> thing actually works making it a moot point. I do think that Windows updates
> should be faster but it's pretty far down my wish-list.
>

We roll out Windows updates overnight to our customers. Even if they 
switch off their machines our management system can send a WOL, install 
the updates and then shut down the machine. Zero disruption to the 
working day, maximum availability and productivity.

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Advantage, Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-18 06:09 -0500
  Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-18 12:01 +0000
    Re: Advantage, Linux "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-18 07:32 -0500
      Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-18 12:51 +0000
        Re: Advantage, Linux "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-18 08:01 -0500
          Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-18 14:06 +0000
            Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-18 16:07 -0500
              Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-19 10:34 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-19 09:19 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-19 10:42 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 09:02 -0700
                Re: Advantage, Linux Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-19 17:08 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 09:19 -0700
                Re: Advantage, Linux Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-19 17:55 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-19 18:39 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-19 13:20 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-19 12:38 -0600
                Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-19 14:43 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 16:06 -0700
                Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-20 00:46 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 16:52 -0700
                Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-20 01:01 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 17:06 -0700
                Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-20 01:15 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 18:57 -0700
                Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-20 08:13 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-20 06:48 -0600
                Re: Advantage, Linux JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-20 14:05 -0600
                Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-20 13:53 -0700
                Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-20 17:14 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-19 12:04 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-19 16:37 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 08:54 -0800
                Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-19 13:18 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 12:06 -0700
                Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-20 09:22 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-20 11:52 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-20 08:41 -0700
                Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-20 17:19 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-20 09:09 -0700
                Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-20 17:14 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-20 09:33 -0700
                Re: Advantage, Linux Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 08:46 -0800
                Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-20 17:22 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 08:42 -0800
                Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-20 17:24 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-20 10:34 -0700
                Re: Advantage, Linux Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 11:31 -0800
                Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-23 09:30 +0000
          My home folder is "C:\\__", but I don't let Windows know that. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-18 14:19 -0800
            Re: My home folder is "C:\\__", but I don't let Windows know that. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-22 08:10 -0500
              99.99% of the time, mental health can't be bought. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-22 05:46 -0800
                Re: 99.99% of the time, mental health can't be bought. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-22 08:54 -0500
                Some are "poor" because they do _not_ stress over money. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-22 06:38 -0800
                Re: Some are "poor" because they do _not_ stress over money. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-22 10:04 -0500
                I have a vasectomy, I'm stress free. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-22 07:35 -0800
                Re: I have a vasectomy, I'm stress free. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-22 10:44 -0500
                How many wives/kids do you have ? Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-22 15:29 -0800
                Re: How many wives/kids do you have ? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 03:15 -0500
      Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 09:43 -0500
    Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-18 12:48 -0500
      Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 13:04 -0500
        Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-18 13:10 -0500
          Re: Advantage, Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 18:22 +0000
            Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 13:23 -0500
              Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-18 14:04 -0500
              Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-22 17:04 -0500
            Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-18 17:18 -0500
              Re: Advantage, Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 23:47 +0000
          Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-18 13:56 -0500
            Re: Advantage, Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 19:13 +0000
              Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-18 15:56 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 21:14 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-18 19:03 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 00:59 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-19 09:51 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 19:32 +0000
              Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-18 17:20 -0500
              Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-18 17:26 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 23:50 +0000
            Re: Advantage, Linux JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-18 14:06 -0600
              Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-18 16:04 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-18 23:02 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-18 19:12 -0600
                Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-19 09:17 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-19 15:38 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-19 09:50 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-19 10:26 -0600
                Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-19 18:10 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-19 15:41 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-19 15:15 -0600
                Re: Advantage, Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 22:54 +0000
            Re: Advantage, Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-18 15:51 -0500
            Re: Advantage, Linux "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-18 20:52 -0500
  Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 09:38 -0500
    Re: Advantage, Linux Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 14:44 +0000
      Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 09:54 -0500
        Re: Advantage, Linux Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 15:16 +0000
          Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 11:23 -0500
    Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-18 13:07 -0500
      Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 13:22 -0500
    Re: Advantage, Linux Marti van Lin <ml2mst@dontevenbother.invalid> - 2015-11-19 18:54 +0100
      Re: Advantage, Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-19 15:47 -0500
        Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-19 18:01 -0500
  Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-18 15:15 +0000
    Re: Advantage, Linux Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-18 16:27 +0100
      Re: Advantage, Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-18 10:41 -0500
        Re: Advantage, Linux Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-18 16:45 +0100
          Re: Advantage, Linux Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 15:51 +0000
          Re: Advantage, Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-18 15:48 -0500
            Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-18 23:01 +0100
              Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-19 14:18 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-19 15:37 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-11-19 08:47 -0600
                Re: Advantage, Linux Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 07:40 -0800
                Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-19 22:59 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-20 00:43 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-20 10:05 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-20 11:50 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-20 13:09 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-20 09:30 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-20 13:58 -0600
                Re: Advantage, Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-20 15:41 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 02:49 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-21 09:31 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-21 22:17 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-22 09:07 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-20 08:09 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-20 13:32 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-20 07:43 -0600
                Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-20 08:58 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-20 08:57 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-11-20 08:15 -0600
                Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-20 12:51 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-20 14:01 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 02:48 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-21 09:30 +0000
            Re: Advantage, Linux JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-18 19:11 -0600
            Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-19 14:19 +0000
        Re: Advantage, Linux Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 15:50 +0000
          Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 11:25 -0500
        Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-19 08:21 +0000
          Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-19 08:18 -0500
      Re: Advantage, Linux Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 15:49 +0000
        Re: Advantage, Linux Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-18 16:51 +0100
          Re: Advantage, Linux Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 15:53 +0000
      Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-19 08:19 +0000
  Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-18 12:49 -0500

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