Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity?

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity?
Date	2015-11-17 15:00 -0600
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On 11/17/2015 2:51 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 11/17/2015 2:45 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 11/17/2015 2:11 PM, john wrote:
>>> Odd
>>> I have heard many professional people
>>> say that gravitation is long range
>>> while electric fields are short range.
>
> I just want to reiterate, John, that when you state what you think you
> remember what someone might have said to you, but you can't recall who
> said it to you or where you read it, then it's very likely you don't
> remember accurately what they said. This is why it's good to CHECK what
> you think you know by READING. This way, you can always go back to what
> you read and refer to it again to see if you remember it wrong.
>
>>
>> Who are they and where did they say this?
>>

And just to make sure that we round-trip this, you are fond of saying 
that much of physics makes no logical sense. This is another way of you 
saying that it goes against your intuition. But your INTUITION also 
tells you that the electrostatic interaction is short-ranged and gravity 
is long-ranged, and on this front your intuition is simply flat wrong. 
So I would think you would now take a stern look at your intuition and 
tell it, "You've been lying to me." I think that's what any sensible 
person would do.

This then leaves you with a choice. Now that it's established that your 
intuition is pretty worthless, what other avenues are available to you 
to determine what is actually real and sensible?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Do we need a new theory of gravity? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 16:18 -0600
  Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-14 22:44 +0000
    Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 17:03 -0600
      Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-14 23:24 +0000
        Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 17:26 -0600
          Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-15 00:08 +0000
            Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 17:56 -0800
              Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 18:28 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 22:18 -0800
                Why won't HVAC admit his NAMBLA membership? benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 03:58 -0500
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 04:17 -0500
              Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-11-15 02:32 +0000
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 22:15 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-11-15 15:24 +0000
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 09:24 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-11-16 01:08 +0000
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 17:13 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-11-16 16:14 +0000
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 08:20 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-11-16 16:59 +0000
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 11:25 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 13:11 -0500
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 12:13 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 10:47 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 13:08 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 13:10 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 11:21 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 15:19 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 15:42 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 23:59 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 15:48 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 16:19 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 00:05 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 23:55 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 00:54 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 10:21 -0800
              Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 11:09 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 11:46 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 12:32 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 15:28 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 13:41 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 14:48 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 17:24 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 16:53 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 10:07 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 00:27 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? "Dave Smith" <invalid@exampll.com> - 2015-11-17 18:01 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 00:24 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-11-17 17:07 +0000
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 11:11 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 11:28 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 14:00 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 12:11 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 14:45 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 14:51 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 15:00 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-11-17 20:30 +0000
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 13:44 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-11-17 20:23 +0000
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 12:46 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 14:00 -0800
            Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? xxein1@att.net - 2015-11-14 22:36 -0800
              Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-15 06:58 +0000
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? xxein1@att.net - 2015-11-14 23:21 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-15 07:26 +0000
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-15 07:40 +0000
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? xxein1@att.net - 2015-11-15 00:10 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-15 21:54 +0000
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? xxein1@att.net - 2015-11-17 11:35 -0800
  Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-14 22:47 +0000
  Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 01:02 -0800
  Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-15 14:13 -0600
    Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 00:00 -0800
  Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? xxein1@att.net - 2015-11-17 11:28 -0800
    Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 13:46 -0600
      Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? xxein1@att.net - 2015-11-17 15:06 -0800
      Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? xxein1@att.net - 2015-11-17 15:36 -0800

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