Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity?

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity?
Date	2015-11-17 14:51 -0600
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On 11/17/2015 2:45 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 11/17/2015 2:11 PM, john wrote:
>> Odd
>> I have heard many professional people
>> say that gravitation is long range
>> while electric fields are short range.

I just want to reiterate, John, that when you state what you think you 
remember what someone might have said to you, but you can't recall who 
said it to you or where you read it, then it's very likely you don't 
remember accurately what they said. This is why it's good to CHECK what 
you think you know by READING. This way, you can always go back to what 
you read and refer to it again to see if you remember it wrong.

>
> Who are they and where did they say this?
>
>> Perhaps you'd like to cut n paste
>> something that says otherwise?
>
> Sure.
>
> Coulomb's law and Newton's law are both inverse-square force laws...
> However, they differ in two crucial respects. Firstly, the force due to
> gravity is always attractive (there is no such thing as a negative
> mass). Secondly, the magnitudes of the two forces are vastly different.
> From: http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node28.html
>
> Coulomb's law describes a force of infinite range which obeys the
> inverse square law, and is of the same form as the gravity force.
> From: http://ummalqura-phy.com/HYPER1/elefor.html
>
> Electromagnetism is infinite-ranged like gravity, but vastly stronger,
> and therefore describes a number of macroscopic phenomena of everyday
> experience such as friction, rainbows, lightning, and all human-made
> devices using electric current, such as television, lasers, and computers.
> From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_interaction
>
> The electromagnetic force is a force of infinite range which obeys the
> inverse square law, and is of the same form as the gravity force.
> From: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/forces/funfor.html
>
> Not to mention the book that YOU cited and which I invited you to read.
>
>
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Do we need a new theory of gravity? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 16:18 -0600
  Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-14 22:44 +0000
    Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 17:03 -0600
      Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-14 23:24 +0000
        Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 17:26 -0600
          Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-15 00:08 +0000
            Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 17:56 -0800
              Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 18:28 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 22:18 -0800
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                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 11:25 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 13:11 -0500
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 12:13 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 10:47 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 13:08 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 13:10 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 11:21 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 15:19 -0600
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                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 23:59 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 15:48 -0800
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                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 10:21 -0800
              Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 11:09 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 11:46 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 12:32 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 15:28 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 13:41 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 14:48 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 17:24 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 16:53 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 10:07 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 00:27 -0800
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                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 11:11 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 11:28 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 14:00 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 12:11 -0800
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 14:45 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 14:51 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 15:00 -0600
                Re: Do we need a new theory of gravity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-11-17 20:30 +0000
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