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Re: Technology's role in a climate solution

From Unum <noneof@yourbusiness.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics, alt.global-warming
Subject Re: Technology's role in a climate solution
Date 2015-11-08 19:06 -0600
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On 11/7/2015 5:17 PM, Wally W. wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 10:46:19 -0600, Unum wrote:
>
>> On 11/6/2015 11:56 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 23:20:56 -0600, Unum wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/6/2015 9:03 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 20:59:54 -0600, Unum wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/6/2015 8:37 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 20:02:04 -0600, Ringer wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Cross-posting to alt.global-warming
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> An eloquent and intelligent post.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sammy's link:
>>>>>>>>>> http://thebulletin.org/technologys-role-climate-solution8815
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Beware, greenies, the cogent reply could make your head 'splode:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 13:26:12 -0800 (PST), Puppet_Sock wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 3:17:17 PM UTC-5, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> [give up, renounce, roll back, localize, shrink, do with less, crap
>>>>>>>>>> snipped]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It would be an interesting game to try to find some possible
>>>>>>>>>> consequence, or set of consequences, that might conceivably
>>>>>>>>>> follow from global warming, that might come within an order
>>>>>>>>>> of magnitude of being as bad as the scheme described here.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At a minimum, it would kill 3 of 4 people alive today. It
>>>>>>>>>> could well be a significantly larger fraction. The changes
>>>>>>>>>> they demand would put us back to a level where the population
>>>>>>>>>> was less than one fourth of what it is now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At a minimum, it would result in the remaining wilderness
>>>>>>>>>> being taken over for crop land. And quite possibly much of
>>>>>>>>>> the less productive areas that have been ignored in the past.
>>>>>>>>>> Such as relatively dry areas being irrigated, and rivers
>>>>>>>>>> being emptied to do it. Thus entire river basins of ecological
>>>>>>>>>> damage would be enforced. The changes they demand would mean
>>>>>>>>>> that farming methods that now produce enough to feed 7 billion,
>>>>>>>>>> on less land than was used to feed 1 billion when there were
>>>>>>>>>> only 1 billion of us, would be dropped. Meaning we would need
>>>>>>>>>> to farm correspondingly more farm land. No more swamps or
>>>>>>>>>> forests or jungles allowed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At least, until enough people died of starvation and illness.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At a minimum it would result in pretty much every species that
>>>>>>>>>> is listed as endangered being driven to extinction. And quite
>>>>>>>>>> rapidly. Because every possible source of calories and protein
>>>>>>>>>> would be exploited by desperate people looking for something to
>>>>>>>>>> eat.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At a minimum it would drastically reduce the capability the
>>>>>>>>>> human race has for innovation, science, and increased technology.
>>>>>>>>>> Because starving sick people have no time for science. Nor for
>>>>>>>>>> libraries or universities or any of the other places and ways
>>>>>>>>>> we have found to do science.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What are the worst scare stories the warmistas pummel us with?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Rising sea level. More storms. More droughts. More malaria.
>>>>>>>>>> Trivial. In comparison to the enforced slaughter, starvation,
>>>>>>>>>> deprivation, and closing of possibilities that the warmistas
>>>>>>>>>> are demanding, it appears to be luxury and opulence.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The warmistas are not just wrong. They are festeringly evil.
>>>>>>>>>> They are giggling malevolent monsters, perching and waiting
>>>>>>>>>> to feast on the bodies of the people, by the billion, they
>>>>>>>>>> hope to kill.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh boy, and they call us "alarmists". Do you have any evidence, historical
>>>>>>>> or otherwise, to back this up? Can you name any of these "warmist" who want
>>>>>>>> to devastate the world, yet feel that they won't be effected by it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.intellihub.com/united-nations-climate-czar-reveals-depopulation-plan-for-humanity/
>>>>>>> we can definitely change those numbers and really should make every
>>>>>>> effort to change the numbers because we are already today, exceeding
>>>>>>> the planetary carrying capacity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://www.axiomatica.org/revealing-the-matrix/eugenicsdepopulation>
>>>>>>> the environmentalist movement has been hijacked by neo-Malthusians who
>>>>>>> want to depopulate the planet in the name of saving the environment.
>>>>>>> The pseudo-science of global warming has replaced the pseudo-science
>>>>>>> of eugenics as the justification for population reduction.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/12/vatican-speaker-on-climate-thinks-there-are-6-billion-too-many-of-us/>
>>>>>>>      “In a very cynical way, it’s a triumph for science because at last we
>>>>>>> have stabilized something –- namely the estimates for the carrying
>>>>>>> capacity of the planet, namely below 1 billion people.”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones
>>>>>>> Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/maintain
>>>>>>> maintain
>>>>>>> : to cause (something) to exist or continue without changing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Question: by what means should the population be *maintained* should
>>>>>>> it go "too high?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/12/03/depopulation-of-the-masses-has-begun/>
>>>>>>> There is a single theme behind all our work–we must reduce population
>>>>>>> levels. Either governments do it our way, through nice clean methods,
>>>>>>> or they will get the kinds of mess that we have in El Salvador, or in
>>>>>>> Iran or in Beirut. Population is a political problem. Once population
>>>>>>> is out of control, it requires authoritarian government, even fascism,
>>>>>>> to reduce it….”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is that enough evidence for you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People who are discussing the carrying capacity of the planet. Oh Noes!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hilarious! The nutjob couldn't find a single thing about;
>>>>>> "festeringly evil. They are giggling malevolent monsters, perching
>>>>>> and waiting to feast on the bodies of the people, by the billion, they
>>>>>> hope to kill"
>>>>>
>>>>> If you couldn't find any "festering evil" related to the above, what
>>>>> does that tell us about you?
>>>>
>>>> Lol, you pathetic little fool.
>>>
>>> So you have no answer to the question?
>>
>> "Can you name any of these "warmist" who want to devastate the world, yet
>> feel that they won't be effected by it?"  The nutjob couldn't find a single
>> thing about; "festeringly evil"
>
> For economy of effort, let's start with the posters in this thread.
>
> Do you think any match that description? If so, who; and why?

Why don't you name a few and cite specific evidence, wally? Get a
few of your sockpuppets to help you.

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Technology's role in a climate solution Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 14:17 -0600
  Re: Technology's role in a climate solution Puppet_Sock <puppet_sock@hotmail.com> - 2015-11-06 13:26 -0800
    Re: Technology's role in a climate solution Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-06 22:28 +0000
      Re: Technology's role in a climate solution Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-06 22:31 +0000
      Re: Technology's role in a climate solution Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-06 17:55 -0500
        Re: Technology's role in a climate solution Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-06 23:07 +0000
          Re: Technology's role in a climate solution Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-06 18:09 -0500
    Re: Technology's role in a climate solution Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-06 18:16 -0500
      Re: Technology's role in a climate solution jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-07 00:57 +0000
    Re: Technology's role in a climate solution Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-06 19:44 -0500
      Re: Technology's role in a climate solution "Ringer" <byoung@peoplestel.net> - 2015-11-06 20:02 -0600
        Re: Technology's role in a climate solution Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-06 21:37 -0500
          Re: Technology's role in a climate solution Unum <noneof@yourbusiness.com> - 2015-11-06 20:59 -0600
            Re: Technology's role in a climate solution Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-06 22:03 -0500
              Re: Technology's role in a climate solution Unum <noneof@yourbusiness.com> - 2015-11-06 23:20 -0600
                Re: Technology's role in a climate solution Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-07 00:56 -0500
                Re: Technology's role in a climate solution Unum <noneof@yourbusiness.com> - 2015-11-07 10:46 -0600
                Re: Technology's role in a climate solution Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-07 18:17 -0500
                Re: Technology's role in a climate solution Unum <noneof@yourbusiness.com> - 2015-11-08 19:06 -0600
            Re: Technology's role in a climate solution dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-07 16:09 -0500
      Re: Technology's role in a climate solution Trawley Trash <trash@invalid.invalid> - 2015-11-07 05:42 -0800
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    Re: Technology's role in a climate solution Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-06 23:40 -0500
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      Re: Technology's role in a climate solution Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-07 01:00 -0500
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          Re: Technology's role in a climate solution Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 08:23 -0600
            Re: Technology's role in a climate solution Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-07 10:31 -0500
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                Re: Technology's role in a climate solution Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-07 11:16 -0500
                Re: Technology's role in a climate solution Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 10:21 -0600
                Re: Technology's role in a climate solution Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-07 11:29 -0500
                Re: Technology's role in a climate solution Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 10:35 -0600
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