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Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked

From "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk>
Newsgroups alt.computer.workshop, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked
Date 2026-03-13 22:00 +0000
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On 13/03/2026 19:58, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> On Mar 8, 2026 at 6:11:02 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
> <n15ar6Fk7ghU1@mid.individual.net>:
> 
>> On 08/03/2026 05:23, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>> On Mar 7, 2026 at 1:24:51 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>>> <n125mjF52siU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>> On 07/03/2026 05:57, Gremlin wrote:
>>>>> Octothorpe Obelus <one2threeMainstreet@anytown.org>
>>>>> news:20260303191638.474e3819@weed Wed, 04 Mar 2026 00:16:38 GMT in
>>>>> alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 20:24:01 +0000
>>>>>> "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How To Protect Your Mac From Malware
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Learn from Gary!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebOFPd755A
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>> “Most software downloaded onto a Mac is "installed", usually in
>>>> Applications, and shows up in System Information > Installations.
>>>
>>> This is not true.
>>
>> Most 3rd party software, not from the Apple App Store, may be found there.
>>
>> Have you inspected YOUR Installations folder to check?
>>
>> FWIW, here is a screenshot showing most of the current 3rd-party
>> software installed on my SSD. You will note at the blue line that
>> Storeograph, another software from EtreSoft Inc which is available from
>> the Apple App Store *IS* showing, but that EtreCheck does not.
>>
>> Are you able to explain WHY that is?
>>
>>>> Once
>>>> there, software can be scanned with an AV software package to check for
>>>> malware.
>>>
>>> There or elsewhere.
>>
>> There IS no application to drag into ESET to scan it.
>> Where else can the application be found if it is not actually installed?
>>
>>>> However, a popular tool often recommended by advisors on the
>>>> Apple Support Communities forums (EtreCheck) cannot be checked in this
>>>> manner.
>>>
>>> Not sure what you mean by this. That only apps in the Applications folder can
>>> be scanned? That they have to be in the System Information database? Either
>>> way that is not true.
>>
>> I appreciate that when EtreCheck is in my 'Downloads' folder it CAN be
>> scanned - but it poses no danger there. Once it is launched -t simply
>> disappears - to where?
>>
>>>> EtreCheck claims NOT to be "installed" - indeed, it does NOT show up in
>>>> Applications or Installations - so just HOW can it be scanned by anti-
>>>> malware software BEFORE being given free reign on an Apple computer?”
>>>
>>> What would prevent it?
>>
>> How can one find it?
>>
>>>> That is a question asked in the "Comments" section under the video.
>>>
>>> I do not see it.
>>
>> Here - clear as day!
>> https://i.ibb.co/9mgdS96R/Screenshot-2026-03-08-at-11-02-15.png
>>
>>>> Do YOU know the answer?
>>>
>>> It does not matter if an app is in the Applications folder or not, nor if it
>>> had a "real" installer (most Mac apps do not), it can still be scanned.
>>
>> Please explain *HOW* I can scan it once it has been launched.
>>
>> Thanks for helping me understand this!
> 
> Again, looking at your posts and revisiting to show where you just are not
> understanding and are focusing more on your attacks than on tech.
> 
> You say most software can be found in System Information >Installations.
> Unlikely to be most, but even if so it is not relevant. There is nothing wrong
> with software being distributed without an installer and it is very common on
> macOS. Other than the App Store it is the norm.
> 
> You then go back to the idea that software without installers cannot be
> scanned. This is not in any way true. And you ask about scanning EtreCheck
> after it has been launched. Not a problem -- as I proved to you with a video.
> 
> You are not understanding even the basics of the technology side of this
> discussion. To be fair, that is fine -- being ignorant of something is not
> immoral or wrong. And not an insult. I am ignorant of many things (say
> anything beyond very simple programming / coding, or soldering, or welding,
> etc.) But you present your ignorance as if it is knowledge, then use clearly
> erroneous conclusions to focus on one piece of software and by extension its
> developer.
> 
> in short: nothing wrong with being wrong, but being confident in your
> incorrect claims and then focusing on one product / developer IS wrong and
> harmful.

May I have a link to that video again?

Will you also explain how you actually MADE the video?

Thanks.
-- 
Kind regards,
David

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Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Octothorpe Obelus <one2threeMainstreet@anytown.org> - 2026-03-03 19:16 -0500
  Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2026-03-07 05:57 +0000
    Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2026-03-07 01:59 -0600
      Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-03-07 23:06 +0000
        Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 20:26 -0700
          Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 05:32 +0000
            Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Bobby The Shitstain <hotmailsss@hotmail.edu> - 2026-03-08 08:55 +0000
              Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Ubiquitous <webermark@polaris.net> - 2026-03-08 09:03 +0000
        Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2026-03-08 04:28 +0000
          Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 04:42 +0000
        Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 04:48 +0000
      Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2026-03-08 04:28 +0000
    Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-07 08:24 +0000
      Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2026-03-08 04:28 +0000
        Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-08 20:04 +0000
          Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 23:56 +0000
            Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-09 18:32 +0000
              Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 18:38 +0000
              Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Kelly Phillips <KFile@podcasts.org.invalid> - 2026-03-09 18:32 -0500
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-10 00:11 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-03-09 17:16 -0700
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-10 00:38 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "Lionel Tiberius Jackson Jr." <lTjjr@localmail.net> - 2026-03-09 20:56 -0400
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 20:40 -0700
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-11 11:08 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 17:58 -0700
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-10 16:38 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-10 21:35 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 01:40 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-11 09:27 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 14:03 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-11 14:32 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 01:43 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "Lionel Tiberius Jackson Jr." <lTjjr@localmail.net> - 2026-03-11 21:55 -0400
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-12 11:22 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 14:14 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-12 15:16 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 15:54 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-12 16:49 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 17:40 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-12 22:05 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 22:19 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-12 23:27 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 00:09 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 18:37 -0700
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 18:19 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-13 09:55 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 13:46 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-13 22:41 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 23:43 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-14 00:10 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 01:10 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-14 08:03 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 09:26 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-14 14:25 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 15:44 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-14 15:56 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 18:07 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-16 10:53 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 13:46 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 15:52 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-14 16:13 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 18:08 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-16 10:38 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 20:22 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-16 10:40 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 14:07 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Kelly Phillips <KFile@podcasts.org.invalid> - 2026-03-16 13:23 -0500
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                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 19:58 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-16 10:43 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 14:06 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-16 23:39 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Glock <glock@localhost.com> - 2026-03-14 21:15 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 14:30 -0700
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-15 01:25 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-15 01:26 +0000
      Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 05:23 +0000
        Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-08 13:11 +0000
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            Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-08 20:28 +0000
              Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 21:36 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-08 22:21 +0000
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                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-08 23:36 +0000
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                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 22:06 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 15:13 -0700
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              Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 23:36 +0000
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          Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 20:22 +0000
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