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| From | Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.folklore.computers |
| Subject | Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines |
| Date | 2015-10-16 15:55 -0500 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <mvro3o$kns$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 16-Oct-15 09:19, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: > Stephen Sprunk wrote: >> On 14-Oct-15 15:30, hancock4@ wrote: >>> What modern electric railroad systems were built (wholly new, not >>> an extension) in the US after 1930? >> >> What makes you think electric rail is limited to the US? > > It's not. But it's easier for discussion purposes The laws of physics aren't different outside the US, and since the US has built so little electric rail in the last century while other countries have built enough to circle the globe several times, that seems like a counter-productive limitation. >> Even the US has built numerous subways and trams (aka light rail) >> since 1930, and all of them follow the first pattern, i.e. >> low-voltage DC, just like modern systems elsewhere in the world. > > Yes, lots of subways and trams were built, but the term "railroad" in > this context ususually refers to heavy rail, not subway or > streetcar. I acknowledge and reject your attempt to drag the thread off-topic; see the Subject line if you're unclear. > At least one diesel streetcar ... Not relevant. >> As you know, thousands of miles of high-speed rail have been built >> around world in the last few decades, and _all_ of them are >> 25kVAC. > > I think part of the reason is that diesel fuel is more expensive > overseas, and that the have greater travel density to justify the > very high fixed cost of elctrification. Actually, no. Most of the US (and where nearly all of the electric rail is) has a similar population density to Europe and SE Asia, and Merkins travel more due to greater personal mobility, which results in _higher_ overall travel density. S -- Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking
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optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-24 11:00 -0700
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 04:47 +1000
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-24 15:01 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-24 14:45 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-24 13:22 -0700
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-25 13:26 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-25 11:48 -0700
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-25 16:12 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-25 20:20 -0700
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2015-08-25 20:28 +0000
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-24 21:42 +0200
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-24 15:14 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-25 08:07 -0700
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-25 12:52 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-25 20:06 +0000
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-08-24 23:33 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-25 01:39 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-25 10:23 +0200
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-25 12:30 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-25 22:48 +0200
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-26 10:44 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-26 18:03 +0200
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-26 12:04 -0700
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-08-25 14:15 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-25 15:15 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-25 13:33 -0700
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-25 15:49 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2015-08-25 21:00 +0000
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-25 16:37 -0500
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Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 19:11 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-25 20:36 -0700
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-26 02:29 -0400
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 09:35 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) - 2015-10-11 17:24 +0000
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-13 07:30 -0700
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) - 2015-10-15 19:32 +0000
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2015-08-25 20:52 +0000
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines "Joseph D. Korman" <joekor@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-28 14:34 -0400
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-26 04:03 +0000
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2015-08-25 20:36 +0000
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-25 08:10 -0700
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-25 12:18 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2015-08-25 17:30 +0000
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-12 22:15 -0700
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-13 07:37 -0700
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-14 13:15 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 12:37 -0700
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-14 14:57 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 13:30 -0700
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 11:26 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-16 07:19 -0700
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-16 15:55 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-17 00:10 +0200
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-21 13:12 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-21 13:23 -0700
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-21 17:56 -0400
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-22 17:53 +0000
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-10-24 00:46 +0000
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 12:38 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-21 17:56 -0400
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-22 10:56 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-22 10:09 -0700
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-22 19:44 +0200
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-22 14:38 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-22 23:40 +0200
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-23 13:29 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-23 11:39 -0700
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-23 15:52 -0400
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-23 21:40 +0100
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-23 16:55 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-23 22:18 +0200
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-25 21:04 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-26 07:17 -0400
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-26 14:48 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-26 15:54 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-10-28 07:07 +1100
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-23 21:36 +0000
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-10-24 16:01 +1100
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-10-23 08:19 +1100
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-23 05:57 -0400
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-22 14:12 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-23 14:27 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-23 16:16 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-23 20:05 -0700
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-25 00:53 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-10-25 17:49 +1100
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Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-23 19:55 -0700
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-24 07:16 -0400
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-24 18:11 +0000
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-24 20:18 -0700
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-24 23:55 -0500
Re: optimum power supply for subway/light rail lines scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-22 18:01 +0000
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