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Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray

From Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray
Date 2015-10-10 11:20 -0400
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Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:

> Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> wrote:
>> hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> The 1401 had disks, and emulation included emulating a 1401 disk on a 360
>>> disk.  Not as efficient as native mode, and wasted space.  However, it
>>> meant 1401 programs could still run unchanged (more below).
>> Well, that brings up another area.  Having 360 files (datasets) all 
>> contiguous certainly did help efficiency.  But, the downside is that this 
>> forces you to pre-allocate files by tracks and cylinders.  In many cases you 
>> didn't know the exact size a file would need to be, so you allocated more 
>> space than you actually needed.
>
> DOS.  Most DOS sysprogs would have charts on their walls showing the
> current allocations for all their disk packs.
>
>> 
>> So, every decision led to another decision.  First, the idea was to make 
>> disks look like tapes 
>
> So that's the reason!  I have often wondered why they did this. It's
> interesting that the underlying disks seem to have been sectorized anyhow,
> as far as I can tell from the Bitsavers manuals on the 2311, etc.

Not sure what you are reading, but the 1311 was sectorized,
the 2311, 2314, 3330 are not.

As Lynn often writes, z/OS to this day does not support FBA (sectorized
disk) even though all modern hardware is FBA underneath.

-- 
Dan Espen

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the legacy of Seymour Cray RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2015-10-02 23:17 +0300
  Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-02 13:41 -0700
    Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-02 17:19 -0700
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-05 16:30 -0500
        Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-05 17:24 -0700
          Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-06 16:16 -0500
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-06 12:07 -0700
        Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2015-10-06 12:12 -0700
          Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-06 17:18 -0700
            Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-07 14:23 -0500
  Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-10-02 20:52 +0000
    Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-10-02 19:04 -0400
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2015-10-03 05:37 -0500
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-03 08:47 -0700
        Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-10-03 08:59 -0700
        Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-03 09:58 -0700
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-03 12:22 -0700
  Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2015-10-02 15:36 -0700
    Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-05 16:16 -0500
  Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-02 17:47 -0700
  Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-03 04:55 -0700
    Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-03 12:39 -0700
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-03 12:56 -0700
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-10-03 20:29 +0000
        Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-03 20:43 -0700
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-03 13:51 -0700
        Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-05 12:10 -0500
          Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-05 16:38 -0500
            Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-05 16:58 -0500
              Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-05 17:18 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-06 17:00 +0000
                Re: fare collection hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-06 11:58 -0700
                Re: fare collection Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-07 01:17 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray The New Other Guy <Newsgnus@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 22:44 -0700
              Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-05 17:31 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-05 23:26 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray The New Other Guy <Newsgnus@gmail.com> - 2015-10-06 00:54 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-06 07:44 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-06 14:59 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-06 14:47 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-06 18:03 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray terry+googleblog@tmk.com - 2015-10-06 16:22 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-06 23:22 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-07 18:33 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-07 07:54 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-07 14:33 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-07 14:08 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-07 16:52 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-07 19:30 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-10-07 18:58 -0600
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-07 19:25 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-08 12:20 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-07 20:27 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-08 12:20 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 09:47 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-08 14:10 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-08 14:25 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-08 20:25 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 16:27 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 17:47 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-11 13:30 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-09 18:40 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-10 16:12 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-11 13:27 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-11 15:01 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-11 18:45 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-11 22:28 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-12 13:44 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-12 09:55 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-12 08:36 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-12 16:41 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-08 14:52 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-08 09:00 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 18:29 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-08 15:06 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 12:17 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-08 16:33 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-10-09 19:40 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-10 16:12 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-08 14:35 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 00:07 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 00:10 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-10-09 20:01 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-10-09 19:38 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-09 18:59 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-10 09:00 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-10 16:12 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-11 08:16 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-11 14:15 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-12 15:39 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-12 19:41 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-13 07:43 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-13 12:18 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-11 16:37 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-12 16:41 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-12 16:21 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-10-12 19:54 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-13 18:23 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-13 12:28 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-13 21:08 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-10-11 08:35 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-11 08:40 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-10-11 12:13 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-10 19:32 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-10 22:51 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-11 13:37 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-10-10 12:07 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-09 13:23 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-08 14:37 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 13:16 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 13:32 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-08 20:11 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-09 13:57 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-09 21:46 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 16:47 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-09 18:18 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-07 19:39 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 05:14 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 07:47 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-10-08 16:03 +0100
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-08 15:00 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-08 08:39 +0200
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-10-08 08:57 -0600
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-08 14:57 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 13:30 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-09 23:36 -0500
                Re: IBM disks, was the legacy of Seymour Cray John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-10-10 05:18 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-10 09:16 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-10 11:20 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-11 13:42 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-10 18:08 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2016-01-08 13:12 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-08 10:34 -0800
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2016-01-13 15:39 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-14 08:03 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2016-01-14 13:10 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2016-01-14 14:49 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-14 15:00 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-01-14 14:28 -0600
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-14 19:57 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-01-14 22:24 -0600
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-15 14:51 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-15 16:40 +0100
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2016-01-15 14:18 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray timcaffrey420@gmail.com - 2016-01-15 15:57 -0800
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-01-15 22:22 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-18 15:24 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-01-18 16:35 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-18 17:46 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-14 11:13 -0800
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-08 19:57 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-01-08 21:50 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2016-01-14 13:23 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-08 14:27 -0800
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-01-09 13:31 -0600
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-09 17:22 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2016-01-14 13:30 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-01-08 17:01 -0600
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-09 01:10 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-01-08 22:33 -0600
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-09 23:43 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 05:14 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-07 16:34 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-07 19:38 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-07 19:17 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 05:14 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-08 12:20 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 09:45 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-08 14:05 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-08 15:06 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-08 16:20 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-08 16:35 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-09 18:12 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-10 00:22 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-07 23:44 +0200
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-07 18:33 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-10-08 14:36 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 11:57 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-08 12:51 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-10-08 21:09 -0600
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray terry+googleblog@tmk.com - 2015-10-09 06:12 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-08 15:12 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-10-08 17:47 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 16:32 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 12:12 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-08 21:40 +0200
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-08 16:33 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-06 17:32 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-07 01:17 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-06 23:29 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-07 08:13 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray The New Other Guy <Newsgnus@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 22:51 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-06 23:19 -0500
              Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2015-10-06 11:44 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-06 16:24 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-08 11:33 +0100
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-08 13:13 +0200
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-08 12:20 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-09 10:32 +0100
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-08 15:42 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-09 11:19 +0100
              Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray The New Other Guy <Newsgnus@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 22:34 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-12 23:23 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-13 10:36 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-13 11:39 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-13 18:23 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-13 10:51 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-13 18:34 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-13 14:59 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-13 17:47 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 03:15 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-14 07:07 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-13 17:43 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 05:39 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-14 13:11 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-10-13 20:52 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 14:43 -0400
            Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-05 17:26 -0700
              Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-05 18:43 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-05 22:32 -0700
              Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-05 23:33 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-06 08:03 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-06 16:36 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray The New Other Guy <Newsgnus@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 22:53 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray pechter@S20.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2015-10-10 15:54 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-11 13:51 -0500
              Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-06 16:30 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-10-06 19:44 -0400
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-05 12:02 -0500
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-05 16:46 -0500

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