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Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray

From Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com>
Organization Pico Systems
Date 2015-10-09 23:36 -0500
Subject Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray
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hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:


> 
> The 1401 had disks, and emulation included emulating a 1401 disk on a 360
> disk.  Not as efficient as native mode, and wasted space.  However, it
> meant 1401 programs could still run unchanged (more below).
Well, that brings up another area.  Having 360 files (datasets) all 
contiguous certainly did help efficiency.  But, the downside is that this 
forces you to pre-allocate files by tracks and cylinders.  In many cases you 
didn't know the exact size a file would need to be, so you allocated more 
space than you actually needed.

So, every decision led to another decision.  First, the idea was to make 
disks look like tapes without the need to search past the whole tape to get 
to a specific record.  So, they had variable record size on the disk.  This 
means that you can't have every record on the disk be interchangeable, so 
you can't format the whole disk with the same record size and then allocate 
files to free records as needed, and extend a file record by record as it 
grows.

This (mostly) eliminates the file fragmentation issue and makes reads and 
writes more efficient, but ends up wasting a lot of space on those very 
expensive disks (I'm talking about back in the 60's).

And, of course, IBM did eventually change over to fixed blocks size disks.


I will say that the way IBM did disk I/O was WAY more efficient than any 
other system I was familiar with at the time.  Records were read off the 
disk (or tape) directly into the user's buffer, not copied several times 
during record unpacking from an OS buffer to the user's buffer.

Jon

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the legacy of Seymour Cray RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2015-10-02 23:17 +0300
  Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-02 13:41 -0700
    Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-02 17:19 -0700
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-05 16:30 -0500
        Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-05 17:24 -0700
          Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-06 16:16 -0500
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-06 12:07 -0700
        Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2015-10-06 12:12 -0700
          Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-06 17:18 -0700
            Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-07 14:23 -0500
  Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-10-02 20:52 +0000
    Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-10-02 19:04 -0400
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2015-10-03 05:37 -0500
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-03 08:47 -0700
        Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-10-03 08:59 -0700
        Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-03 09:58 -0700
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-03 12:22 -0700
  Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2015-10-02 15:36 -0700
    Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-05 16:16 -0500
  Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-02 17:47 -0700
  Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-03 04:55 -0700
    Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-03 12:39 -0700
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-03 12:56 -0700
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-10-03 20:29 +0000
        Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-03 20:43 -0700
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-03 13:51 -0700
        Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-05 12:10 -0500
          Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-05 16:38 -0500
            Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-05 16:58 -0500
              Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-05 17:18 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-06 17:00 +0000
                Re: fare collection hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-06 11:58 -0700
                Re: fare collection Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-07 01:17 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray The New Other Guy <Newsgnus@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 22:44 -0700
              Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-05 17:31 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-05 23:26 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray The New Other Guy <Newsgnus@gmail.com> - 2015-10-06 00:54 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-06 07:44 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-06 14:59 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-06 14:47 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-06 18:03 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray terry+googleblog@tmk.com - 2015-10-06 16:22 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-06 23:22 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-07 18:33 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-07 07:54 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-07 14:33 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-07 14:08 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-07 16:52 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-07 19:30 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-10-07 18:58 -0600
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-07 19:25 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-08 12:20 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-07 20:27 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-08 12:20 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 09:47 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-08 14:10 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-08 14:25 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-08 20:25 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 16:27 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 17:47 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-11 13:30 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-09 18:40 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-10 16:12 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-11 13:27 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-11 15:01 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-11 18:45 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-11 22:28 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-12 13:44 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-12 09:55 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-12 08:36 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-12 16:41 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-08 14:52 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-08 09:00 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 18:29 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-08 15:06 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 12:17 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-08 16:33 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-10-09 19:40 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-10 16:12 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-08 14:35 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 00:07 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 00:10 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-10-09 20:01 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-10-09 19:38 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-09 18:59 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-10 09:00 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-10 16:12 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-11 08:16 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-11 14:15 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-12 15:39 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-12 19:41 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-13 07:43 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-13 12:18 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-11 16:37 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-12 16:41 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-12 16:21 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-10-12 19:54 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-13 18:23 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-13 12:28 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-13 21:08 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-10-11 08:35 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-11 08:40 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-10-11 12:13 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-10 19:32 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-10 22:51 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-11 13:37 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-10-10 12:07 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-09 13:23 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-08 14:37 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 13:16 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 13:32 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-08 20:11 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-09 13:57 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-09 21:46 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 16:47 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-09 18:18 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-07 19:39 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 05:14 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 07:47 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-10-08 16:03 +0100
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-08 15:00 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-08 08:39 +0200
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-10-08 08:57 -0600
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-08 14:57 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 13:30 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-09 23:36 -0500
                Re: IBM disks, was the legacy of Seymour Cray John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-10-10 05:18 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-10 09:16 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-10 11:20 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-11 13:42 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-10 18:08 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2016-01-08 13:12 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-08 10:34 -0800
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2016-01-13 15:39 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-14 08:03 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2016-01-14 13:10 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2016-01-14 14:49 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-14 15:00 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-01-14 14:28 -0600
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-14 19:57 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-01-14 22:24 -0600
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-15 14:51 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-15 16:40 +0100
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2016-01-15 14:18 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray timcaffrey420@gmail.com - 2016-01-15 15:57 -0800
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-01-15 22:22 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-18 15:24 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-01-18 16:35 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-18 17:46 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-14 11:13 -0800
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-08 19:57 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-01-08 21:50 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2016-01-14 13:23 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-08 14:27 -0800
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-01-09 13:31 -0600
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-09 17:22 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2016-01-14 13:30 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-01-08 17:01 -0600
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-09 01:10 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-01-08 22:33 -0600
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-09 23:43 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 05:14 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-07 16:34 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-07 19:38 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-07 19:17 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 05:14 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-08 12:20 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 09:45 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-08 14:05 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-08 15:06 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-08 16:20 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-08 16:35 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-09 18:12 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-10 00:22 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-07 23:44 +0200
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-07 18:33 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-10-08 14:36 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 11:57 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-08 12:51 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-10-08 21:09 -0600
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray terry+googleblog@tmk.com - 2015-10-09 06:12 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-08 15:12 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-10-08 17:47 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 16:32 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 12:12 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-08 21:40 +0200
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-08 16:33 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-06 17:32 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-07 01:17 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-06 23:29 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-07 08:13 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray The New Other Guy <Newsgnus@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 22:51 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-06 23:19 -0500
              Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2015-10-06 11:44 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-06 16:24 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-08 11:33 +0100
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-08 13:13 +0200
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-08 12:20 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-09 10:32 +0100
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-08 15:42 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-09 11:19 +0100
              Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray The New Other Guy <Newsgnus@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 22:34 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-12 23:23 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-13 10:36 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-13 11:39 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-13 18:23 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-13 10:51 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-13 18:34 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-13 14:59 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-13 17:47 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 03:15 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-14 07:07 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-13 17:43 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 05:39 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-14 13:11 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-10-13 20:52 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 14:43 -0400
            Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-05 17:26 -0700
              Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-05 18:43 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-05 22:32 -0700
              Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-05 23:33 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-06 08:03 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-06 16:36 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray The New Other Guy <Newsgnus@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 22:53 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray pechter@S20.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2015-10-10 15:54 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-11 13:51 -0500
              Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-06 16:30 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-10-06 19:44 -0400
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-05 12:02 -0500
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-05 16:46 -0500

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