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Re: rationality

From Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: rationality
Date 2015-10-09 15:06 -0500
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On 09-Oct-15 12:36, Quadibloc wrote:
> Stephen Sprunk wrote:
>> but considering she is the canonical example of pure altruism...
> 
> Let's put it this way.
> 
> If I make an effort to help people I *care about*, such as close
> relatives, that isn't "pure altruism", right?
> 
> So someone like Mother Theresa or Albert Schweitzer just happens to
> care about everyone, including the poor people in far-away
> countries.

In the former case, the distinction matters because you're treating
people differently depending on whether you care about them; in the
latter, it is moot because there is nobody you don't care about.

I'd highly suggest watching the video Hitchens made; he demonstrates
that Mother Theresa's "altruism" was a case of self-aggrandizement and
didn't actually help anyone.  It didn't sway the Vatican, but by design
and intent, the devil's advocate rarely wins.

> So instead of the issue being a claim that exceptionally kind and
> generous people have some type of hidden agenda, the issue is that
> Immanuel Kant defined "altruism" incorrectly.

Well, the simplest (and most widely accepted) definition is doing for
others with no expectation of benefit to self.  But if one always
benefits from doing for others, either directly or indirectly, then is
true altruism ever possible?

> Ayn Rand seems to prefer shocking people to explaining herself
> clearly.

IMHO, Rand explained herself clearly, but she used numerous strawman
arguments that undermined her positions.  This appears to have been
unintentional on her part since she later recognized what she'd done and
repudiated Objectivism as inherently flawed--something that her modern
followers choose to ignore.

S

-- 
Stephen Sprunk         "God does not play dice."  --Albert Einstein
CCIE #3723         "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
K5SSS        dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking

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  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-10 10:21 -0500
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                Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 11:09 -0500
                Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-23 16:31 +0000
                Re: power supplies Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-09-23 11:20 -0700
                Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 19:45 +0000
                Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 07:38 -0700
                Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 19:44 +0000
                Re: power supplies jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-24 13:35 +0000
                Re: power supplies sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2015-09-30 18:35 -0400
                Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-01 13:17 +0000
                Re: power supplies "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-01 08:27 -0500
                Re: power supplies jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-02 13:11 +0000
                Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-02 14:42 +0000
                Re: power supplies Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-02 19:17 +0100
                Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-02 15:14 -0400
                Re: power supplies JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 14:20 -0500
                Re: power supplies Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-02 20:15 -0500
                Re: power supplies Michele <havana9@bigmailbox.net> - 2015-10-04 23:41 +0200
                Re: power supplies jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-01 13:27 +0000
                Re: power supplies Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-10-04 14:22 +0000
                Re: power supplies "Hanny Z" <hz@nospam.com> - 2015-10-05 03:46 +1100
                Re: power supplies Michele <havana9@bigmailbox.net> - 2015-10-04 23:51 +0200
                Re: power supplies jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-05 12:47 +0000
                Re: power supplies Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-10-05 17:29 +0000
                Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-05 07:16 -0700
                Re: power supplies Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-10-05 15:37 +0100
                Re: power supplies Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-10-05 17:35 +0000
                Re: power supplies Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-09-23 09:53 +0100
                Re: power supplies Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-23 10:14 +0000
                Re: power supplies Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-09-23 13:50 +0100
                Re: power supplies Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-23 20:16 +0000
                Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 16:46 -0500
                Re: power supplies Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-23 12:42 -0500
                Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-23 14:50 -0400
                Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 07:51 -0700
                Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-22 10:31 -0700
                Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-24 14:18 -0500
                Re: power supplies lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-24 21:36 +0200
                Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-24 15:05 -0500
                Re: power supplies lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-24 22:21 +0200
                Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 13:49 -0700
                steam coold, too, was: power supplies danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2015-09-25 02:22 +0000
                Re: steam coold, too, was: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-25 07:17 -0700
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                Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-25 10:36 -0500
                Re: power supplies "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-25 10:51 -0500
                Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-25 14:10 -0500
                Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-25 12:33 -0700
                Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-25 15:07 -0500
                Re: power supplies Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-25 20:21 +0000
                Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-26 16:04 -0500
                Re: power supplies Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-27 07:01 -0400
                Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-25 16:42 +0000
                Re: power supplies sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2015-09-30 18:42 -0400
                Re: power supplies Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 23:14 +0200
                Re: power supplies Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-22 15:43 +0100
                Re: power supplies Dave Pitts <dpitts@cozx.com> - 2015-09-23 07:47 -0600
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 20:20 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 15:41 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 23:26 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-22 23:58 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-22 15:48 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Bernd Felsche <berfel@innovative.iinet.net.au> - 2015-09-24 12:13 +0800
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 11:30 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 21:52 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 18:10 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 23:35 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 20:27 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-22 01:55 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:36 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions cmadams@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) - 2015-09-21 22:11 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-22 16:02 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-22 10:40 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-22 17:23 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-22 10:46 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-22 17:23 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-23 06:57 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-23 08:57 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions cmadams@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) - 2015-09-22 10:51 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-23 02:29 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-23 10:14 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-23 19:23 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-23 11:34 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 14:58 -0500
                accurate watches, was: Decimal point character and billions danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2015-09-23 20:51 +0000
                Re: accurate watches, was: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 16:49 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 19:05 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 19:01 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 07:47 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-24 18:52 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 12:14 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-24 16:00 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-25 01:23 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-25 09:07 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-23 14:52 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-23 14:05 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-23 12:55 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 16:13 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-24 00:46 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-24 07:19 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-24 17:50 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-22 10:53 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-23 02:30 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-22 22:12 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-23 06:58 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-22 19:22 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-23 10:14 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-23 10:00 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-24 07:43 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-23 12:46 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 18:56 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-24 04:05 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-23 22:31 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-24 15:49 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-24 11:05 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-24 16:30 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 08:12 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-24 18:52 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-24 16:02 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-25 01:23 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:28 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:17 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Jack Myers" <jmyers@n6wuz.net> - 2015-09-22 11:41 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-09-23 14:46 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-23 17:12 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-23 10:45 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 23:26 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-21 22:09 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:25 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-22 07:00 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-21 21:37 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-20 18:26 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-20 19:34 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-20 22:27 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-21 09:16 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 15:33 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions cmadams@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) - 2015-09-20 15:39 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 16:31 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-21 21:37 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-20 16:26 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-20 21:28 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-21 09:23 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-09-20 10:22 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-20 16:48 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 16:01 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-20 22:27 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions mausg@mail.com - 2015-09-21 10:28 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 16:29 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions mausg@mail.com - 2015-09-21 20:03 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 21:49 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-21 17:05 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-21 18:03 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2015-09-22 00:45 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-20 12:56 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 15:52 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 01:20 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-21 18:07 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-20 18:18 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 16:20 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-20 19:23 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 10:08 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 14:11 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-22 10:48 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-26 17:08 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 13:50 +1000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-28 05:43 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-28 10:08 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 10:03 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-28 10:55 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 12:36 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-28 09:54 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 13:20 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-28 19:02 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 15:12 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-28 17:01 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 17:15 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-28 17:05 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-28 20:49 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-29 07:32 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-28 18:36 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-29 03:07 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-29 10:38 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-29 12:53 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-29 18:15 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-29 12:14 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-29 12:24 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-29 20:26 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-30 12:16 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-01 10:32 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-29 17:32 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-09-29 07:47 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-29 07:36 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-29 13:35 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-29 10:26 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-29 17:15 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-30 11:52 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-30 22:54 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 09:02 +1000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-30 21:59 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 14:49 +1000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-09-30 20:09 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-01 05:47 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-10-01 15:13 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 05:40 +1000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 14:34 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 13:45 +1000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-30 11:59 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-30 19:14 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-28 14:56 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 16:08 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-28 13:30 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 17:12 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-29 13:55 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 15:02 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-28 17:13 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 21:22 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-29 07:52 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 07:52 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-02 16:41 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 18:55 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-05 16:10 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-05 16:20 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-06 16:05 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-06 17:17 -0500
                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-07 08:27 -0700
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-07 15:22 -0500
                Re: rationality David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-07 21:42 +0100
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-07 18:01 -0500
                Re: rationality simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-08 12:02 +0100
                Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-08 13:19 +0200
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-08 11:41 -0500
                Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-09 11:25 +0100
                Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-08 07:49 -0500
                Re: rationality simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-09 13:02 +0100
                Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 10:32 -0700
                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 18:46 +0000
                Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 15:07 -0500
                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 20:56 +0000
                Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-09 19:16 +0000
                Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-09 23:59 -0300
                Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-10 12:03 -0700
                Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-08 11:17 -0500
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 15:28 -0500
                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 18:29 +0000
                Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-08 13:21 -0700
                Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-14 11:41 -0700
                Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-14 14:45 -0500
                Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-14 22:02 +0000
                Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-15 03:21 -0300
                Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-15 08:53 +0000
                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 13:53 -0700
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 11:32 -0500
                Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 10:36 -0700
                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 18:46 +0000
                Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 15:15 -0500
                Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-09 22:50 +0200
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 15:06 -0500
                Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 13:49 -0700
                Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 14:02 -0700
                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-09 14:23 -0400
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 15:20 -0500
                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 20:56 +0000
                Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:24 -0500
                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-10 09:16 -0400
                Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-10 15:00 -0300
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-10 20:11 -0500
                Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 16:19 -0500
                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 22:21 +0000
                Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-10 18:32 -0500
                Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-10 21:47 -0500
                Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-12 15:54 -0500
                Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-12 21:39 +0000
                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-12 19:43 -0400
                Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-12 21:29 -0700
                Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 16:33 -0500
                Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-13 15:25 -0700
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-13 19:06 -0500
                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 05:39 +0000
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-14 11:23 -0500
                Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-14 12:46 +0000
                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 09:17 -0400
                Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-14 09:24 -0700
                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 13:01 -0400
                Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-14 19:04 +0000
                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 16:20 -0400
                Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 16:24 -0500
                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 09:34 -0700
                Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-12 17:59 -0500
                Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-13 02:05 -0300
                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-13 18:23 +0000
                Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 17:05 -0500
                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 03:15 +0000
                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 09:45 -0700
                Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-13 15:13 -0700
                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-13 20:52 -0400
                Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-14 03:29 -0700
                Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-14 03:45 -0700
                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 08:20 -0400
                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 09:56 -0700
                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 18:21 +0000
                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 16:16 -0400
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-14 16:50 -0500
                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 21:59 -0400
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 11:05 -0500
                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-15 06:43 -0400
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 10:58 -0500
                Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-15 16:41 +0000
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 12:24 -0500
                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-15 17:51 +0000
                Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-15 18:40 +0000
                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-15 07:12 -0700
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 10:48 -0500
                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-15 12:27 -0400
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 11:37 -0500
                Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-15 13:40 -0500

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