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Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile"

From G <g@nowhere.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.lang.fortran, comp.lang.c, comp.lang.c++
Subject Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile"
Date 2026-01-31 18:50 +0000
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In comp.lang.c David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
> On 30/01/2026 21:28, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> schrieb:
>> [...]
>> 
>> 
>>> IME, locale settings can be a bigger hinder than help, especially on
>>> Windows and with MS Office.  If your program exports data in tab or
>>> semicolon separated formats to be opened in a spreadsheet, or has some
>>> other connection to MS Office programs, you have to use the formats that
>>> the locale wants, not the formats the current user wants.
>> 
>> That is so true.  Localization in MS Office is a pain, and the different
>> CSV formats are horrible.
>> 
>> On my personal PC, I have set the decimal separator, with German
>> settings otherwise, to a dot.  This makes data interoperable
>> with all sorts of scripts and other programs that I tend to use
>> togetether with data from Excel files.  Using tab as a separator works
>> pretty well then, it is at least unique.
>> 
>> I do have another computer, used as a workstation, which I keep
>> on US English settings.  This allows easier communication with,
>> for example, international support for programs which originate
>> outside of Germany.  It also allows me to have the original Excel
>> function names, which are also localized.  Luckily, I can save
>> an Excel file in English and than open it on my German-language
>> computer in German.
>> 
>> 
>>> (LibreOffice
>>> is vastly more flexible.)  Displaying a decimal point, decimal colon, or
>>> decimal apostrophe is not difficult - it is handling the imports and
>>> exports that is the challenge.
>> 
>> I have not yet succeeded in getting LibreOffice to display a decimal
>> point with German settings, and when I use US English I get inches
>> for paper sizes :-(
>> 
> 
> Use UK settings, not US settings.  Then at least you get sane paper 
> sizes and measurement units.
> 
and sane dates... 

> LibreOffice has its faults and weaknesses, but it is still far ahead of 
> MS Office in many aspects.  (Or perhaps "less terrible" is more accurate?)

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"Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-01-23 21:35 -0600
  Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-24 04:46 +0000
    Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Gary Scott <garylscott@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-01-24 10:11 -0600
  Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-01-25 17:13 +0000
    Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-01-25 15:21 -0600
      Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-01-26 01:00 +0100
        Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-26 15:04 +0000
      Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-26 01:42 +0000
        Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-01-26 00:45 -0600
          Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-26 14:17 +0200
            Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-01-26 16:50 -0600
        Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-26 09:07 +0100
          Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2026-01-30 14:56 +0200
            Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-01-30 14:37 +0100
          Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-01-30 20:28 +0000
            Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-31 12:50 +0100
              Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" G <g@nowhere.invalid> - 2026-01-31 18:50 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Gary Scott <garylscott@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-01-31 16:10 -0600
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" ImperiusDamian <dgwrightauthor@gmail.com> - 2026-01-31 21:08 -0500
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-01 09:06 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2026-02-02 11:18 +0100
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-02 21:23 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2026-02-03 10:33 +0100
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-03 21:29 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-02-01 11:18 +0100
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Gary Scott <garylscott@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-02-01 08:28 -0600
              Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-02-01 09:42 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-02-01 11:35 +0100
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-02-01 12:21 -0500
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-02-01 23:01 +0100
      Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-01-26 22:47 +0000
        Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-01-26 16:51 -0600
        Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-27 05:17 +0000
          Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-01-27 06:45 +0000
            Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-01-27 01:46 -0600
              Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-01-27 00:14 -0800
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-27 15:22 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-01-27 12:33 -0800
              Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-27 11:04 +0200
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Gary Scott <garylscott@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-01-27 08:35 -0600
          Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-27 15:21 +0000
  Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-02-02 21:02 +0100
    Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-02-02 21:13 +0100
    Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-02 21:25 +0000
    Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-03 10:54 +0200
      Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-02-03 10:44 +0100
        Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-02-03 09:47 -0500
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            Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-02-04 08:45 -0500
        Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-03 21:32 +0000
          Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-02-03 22:56 +0100
            Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-04 00:15 +0000
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      Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-02-03 17:28 -0600
        Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-04 00:14 +0000
          Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-02-03 20:17 -0600
            Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-04 04:57 +0000
              Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-02-04 08:54 -0500
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-02-04 16:43 -0600
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-05 09:09 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-02-05 15:47 -0600
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-05 22:35 +0000
          Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-02-04 15:44 +0000
            Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-02-04 16:53 -0600
              Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-05 09:10 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-05 12:10 +0200
              Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-02-07 09:23 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-02-09 15:25 -0600
        Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-04 14:24 +0200
          Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-02-04 16:57 +0100
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            Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-02-04 16:57 -0600
              Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-05 09:11 +0000
          Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-02-04 16:55 -0600
            Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-05 12:24 +0200
        Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-02-04 19:20 +0000
          Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-02-04 17:07 -0600
            Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-02-05 07:23 +0000
              Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-05 09:14 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-02-05 16:01 -0600
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-05 22:30 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-02-05 20:22 -0600
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-06 04:50 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-02-05 23:52 -0600
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-02-06 04:24 -0600
              Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-05 12:02 +0200
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-02-05 18:38 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-05 21:07 +0200
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-02-05 19:36 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" "Steven G. Kargl" <sgk@REMOVEtroutmask.apl.washington.edu> - 2026-02-05 22:01 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2026-02-06 11:29 -0500
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Gary Scott <garylscott@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-02-06 13:20 -0600
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-02-06 19:43 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" "David Jones" <dajhawk18xx@@nowhere.com> - 2026-02-06 20:48 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-02-13 17:20 -0600
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-02-13 17:21 -0600
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" "Steven G. Kargl" <sgk@REMOVEtroutmask.apl.washington.edu> - 2026-02-06 21:41 +0000
              Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-02-05 11:13 +0100
              Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-02-05 15:58 -0600
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-02-07 19:15 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-07 20:34 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-02-08 08:58 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-02-08 04:07 -0800
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-08 15:39 +0200
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-08 23:35 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-02-09 15:33 -0600
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-10 20:55 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-02-10 18:57 -0600
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-11 05:57 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-02-11 14:32 +0100
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-02-11 20:46 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-02-09 15:29 -0600
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-02-10 06:10 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-02-09 15:32 -0600
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-02-10 06:07 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-10 20:17 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-02-10 20:07 -0600
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-11 05:54 +0000
                Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-02-11 14:42 +0100
    Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-02-03 17:32 -0600

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