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Re: Einstein's gravitational constant

From Frances Espinosa <franesp@portio.org>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics
Subject Re: Einstein's gravitational constant
Date 2015-09-16 17:01 +0000
Organization Ckean Air Approximation
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Paul B. Andersen wrote:

> On 15.09.2015 22:50, Frances Espinosa wrote:
>> Tom Roberts wrote:
>>>
>>> All one does is COMPUTE the fall of a stone near earth using the
>>> appropriate approximation to GR, and then compare to actual stones. Or
>>> one COMPUTES the orbit of moon, or earth, or planets and comets, and
>>> compares to their actual orbits. They agree to within the precision of
>>> the measurements (including quite subtle effects, such as perihelion
>>> shifts).
>>
>> You merely display your now legendary ignorance. Nobody ever use GR to
>> approximate falling of stones near Earth. But predominately Newton
>> differential equations are used.
>>
>> If you pretend otherwise, do it right now. Use GR to approximate the
>> fall of a stone. Talk is cheap. Let me see your tensors in GR.
> 
> http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2010-7/download/
lrr-2010-7Color.pdf
> or:
> http://tinyurl.com/noslyzj
> http://arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/0509114v1

Hmm, seems impenetrably convoluted. Here it is, one stone 1 Kg, initial 
elevation 100 m. Use GR to approximate the falling stone at t = 1.5 sec. 
Let me see GR used to something useful, not only legends.

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                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-19 05:52 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-19 10:39 -0400
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            Re: Einstein's gravitational constant kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-15 21:26 -0400
        Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Frances Espinosa <franesp@portio.org> - 2015-09-15 20:50 +0000
          Re: Einstein's gravitational constant "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-09-16 14:11 +0200
            Re: Einstein's gravitational constant kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-16 08:35 -0400
              Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Frances Espinosa <franesp@portio.org> - 2015-09-16 17:08 +0000
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-16 15:08 -0400
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-16 19:41 +0000
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-16 16:22 -0400
            Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Frances Espinosa <franesp@portio.org> - 2015-09-16 17:01 +0000
              Re: Einstein's gravitational constant "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-09-17 15:27 +0200
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