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Re: Einstein's gravitational constant

From	Frances Espinosa <franesp@portio.org>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics
Subject	Re: Einstein's gravitational constant
Date	2015-09-15 20:50 +0000
Organization	Ckean Air Approximation
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Tom Roberts wrote:

>> However, this constant is very much sensitive to what the energy
>> momentum tensor is. With that said, the energy momentum tensor is
>> practically zero in every experiment not involving cosmology.  So, we
>> have no way to verify if any claimed constant is correct or not.
> 
> NONSENSE!
> 
> All one does is COMPUTE the fall of a stone near earth using the
> appropriate approximation to GR, and then compare to actual stones. Or
> one COMPUTES the orbit of moon, or earth, or planets and comets, and
> compares to their actual orbits. They agree to within the precision of
> the measurements (including quite subtle effects, such as perihelion
> shifts).

You merely display your now legendary ignorance. Nobody ever use GR to 
approximate falling of stones near Earth. But predominately Newton 
differential equations are used.

If you pretend otherwise, do it right now. Use GR to approximate the fall 
of a stone. Talk is cheap. Let me see your tensors in GR.

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Einstein's gravitational constant Phil Bouchard <pbouchard8@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 13:03 -0400
  Re: Einstein's gravitational constant alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-13 10:50 -0700
  Re: Einstein's gravitational constant kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-13 15:41 -0400
    Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Phil Bouchard <pbouchard8@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 16:05 -0400
  Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 13:01 -0700
    Re: Einstein's gravitational constant kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-13 16:06 -0400
    Re: Einstein's gravitational constant alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-13 14:03 -0700
    Re: Einstein's gravitational constant fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-10-06 13:40 -0700
      Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Katarina Bulakova <katabu@transmatric.org> - 2015-10-06 22:06 +0000
  Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-13 16:37 -0500
    Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Phil Bouchard <pbouchard8@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 18:18 -0400
      Re: Einstein's gravitational constant YBM <ybmess@noos.fr.invalid> - 2015-09-14 02:24 +0200
        Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Phil Bouchard <pbouchard8@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 21:10 -0400
          Re: Einstein's gravitational constant YBM <ybmess@noos.fr.invalid> - 2015-09-14 03:37 +0200
            Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Phil Bouchard <pbouchard8@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 23:04 -0400
              Re: Einstein's gravitational constant "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2015-09-13 23:35 -0700
    Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 23:41 -0700
      Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-15 11:32 -0500
        Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 10:42 -0700
        Re: Einstein's gravitational constant alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-15 12:12 -0700
          Re: Einstein's gravitational constant JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 12:16 -0700
            Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 12:32 -0700
              Re: Einstein's gravitational constant JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 12:49 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 00:44 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 10:25 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 10:31 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 10:42 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 00:01 -0700
            Re: Einstein's gravitational constant alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-15 13:40 -0700
              Re: Einstein's gravitational constant JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 14:50 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-17 05:07 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 14:22 +0200
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-17 05:43 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 15:44 +0200
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-17 06:54 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 16:05 +0200
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-17 09:31 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 18:42 +0200
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-17 20:17 +0200
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-17 08:44 -0400
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-17 06:38 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 20:45 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 00:26 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-19 08:12 -0400
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-19 05:33 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-19 10:38 -0400
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-19 08:28 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-19 15:45 +0000
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-19 13:14 -0400
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-19 12:00 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-19 16:09 -0400
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 15:45 -0500
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-19 14:28 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-09-19 17:41 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-19 22:30 -0400
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-09-19 20:42 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-20 00:23 -0400
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-09-19 21:44 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-22 17:55 +0000
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-19 06:25 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-19 05:52 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-19 10:39 -0400
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-20 10:07 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-20 13:46 -0400
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-20 14:31 -0700
            Re: Einstein's gravitational constant kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-15 21:26 -0400
        Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Frances Espinosa <franesp@portio.org> - 2015-09-15 20:50 +0000
          Re: Einstein's gravitational constant "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-09-16 14:11 +0200
            Re: Einstein's gravitational constant kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-16 08:35 -0400
              Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Frances Espinosa <franesp@portio.org> - 2015-09-16 17:08 +0000
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-16 15:08 -0400
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-16 19:41 +0000
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-16 16:22 -0400
            Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Frances Espinosa <franesp@portio.org> - 2015-09-16 17:01 +0000
              Re: Einstein's gravitational constant "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-09-17 15:27 +0200
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-17 20:29 +0000
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 23:32 -0700
            Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 10:26 -0700
              Re: Einstein's gravitational constant "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-09-17 15:30 +0200
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 23:14 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-18 03:18 -0400
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-09-18 10:43 +0200
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 16:32 -0700
                Re: Einstein's gravitational constant "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-09-20 15:19 +0200
  Phil Bouchard proves again that he's an imbecile "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2015-09-13 18:59 -0700
  Re: Einstein's gravitational constant JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 23:13 -0700
    Re: Einstein's gravitational constant Phil Bouchard <pbouchard8@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 08:45 -0400

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