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| From | David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: who invented static? |
| Date | 2015-09-07 12:22 +0200 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <msjodd$qjn$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (6 earlier) <55E32CBB.2050001@verizon.net> <mrvcnh$fju$1@dont-email.me> <kfnio7nng50.fsf@x-alumni2.alumni.caltech.edu> <msjhi9$2d9$1@dont-email.me> <lny4gisiz6.fsf@kst-u.example.com> |
On 07/09/15 10:59, Keith Thompson wrote: > David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes: >> On 07/09/15 03:59, Tim Rentsch wrote: >>> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes: > > [...] > >> As for documentation - and therefore "manual" enforcement, I don't see >> that the use of "static" adds anything, at least for my own code. If I >> declare a function to have a parameter "int x[100]", then it is clear to >> me that this function wants an array of at least 100 int's. The >> "static" is superfluous from the documentation viewpoint. > > The problem is that these three declarations: > > void func(int x[100]); > void func(int x[]); > void func(int *x); > > all mean exactly the same thing, and the 100 is quietly ignored. They all mean the same thing to the C compiler, which quietly ignores the 100 - but they should not mean the same thing to a human programmer, and they may not mean the same thing to static error analysis tools. > If you > write the first, it's obvious that you *intended* x to point the first > element of an array with at least 100 elements -- but it's equally > obvious to anyone who knows C sufficiently well that you haven't > expressed that intent to the compiler. True. > > It would have been nice if > void func(int x[100]); > had meant what > void func(int x[static 100]); > means, but it was too late to change the existing meaning. > Indeed. However, as far as I can see, "void func(int x[static 100])" means almost exactly the same to the compiler as "void func(int x[100])". The compiler is quite happy to view the declaration with the "static" as being entirely compatible with those you listed without the "static", and it is quite happy to have multiple declarations of the same function with different static sizes of the array.
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