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Re: Time is absolute not relative

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Time is absolute not relative
Date	2015-09-01 09:42 -0500
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On 9/1/2015 9:16 AM, kenseto wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 10:06:40 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 9/1/2015 9:03 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>> The LT does not require two synched clocks in each frame. It predicts the rate
>>> of a single moving clock compared to the rate of the observer's clock
>>> and the result is 1/gamma. BTW there is no such thing as an inertial frame on earth.
>>
>> Every one of these three sentence is flat wrong.
>
> They are wrong according to your failed theory of SR. They are correct according to IRT.
>

Well, you made a statement about the Lorentz transforms. The Lorentz 
transforms belong to SR and IRT can't have them. The statement you made 
about the Lorentz transforms of SR is flat wrong.

And if IRT is going to make the statement that there is no such thing as 
an inertial frame on earth, then IRT is a bag of nonsense.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Time is absolute not relative Basti05b@aol.com - 2015-08-27 04:52 -0700
  Re: Time is absolute not relative Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-27 05:13 -0700
    Re: Time is absolute not relative Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-29 13:27 +0200
      Re: Time is absolute not relative Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-29 05:09 -0700
        Re: Time is absolute not relative mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-08-29 23:33 -0700
          Re: Time is absolute not relative Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-30 05:04 -0700
            Re: Time is absolute not relative mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-08-30 08:28 -0700
            Re: Time is absolute not relative kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-30 08:45 -0700
              Re: Time is absolute not relative Reginald Ehrett <chasi@competence.org> - 2015-08-30 15:49 +0000
        Re: Time is absolute not relative Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-30 01:11 +0200
  Re: Time is absolute not relative kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-30 09:06 -0700
  Re: Time is absolute not relative rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 09:51 -0700
    Re: Time is absolute not relative mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-08-30 12:35 -0700
      Re: Time is absolute not relative Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-30 16:27 -0500
        Re: Time is absolute not relative mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-08-30 23:09 -0700
          Re: Time is absolute not relative mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-08-30 23:31 -0700
          Re: Time is absolute not relative Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-31 10:58 -0500
            Re: Time is absolute not relative Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-31 20:51 +0200
              Re: Time is absolute not relative Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-31 21:11 -0500
                Re: Time is absolute not relative John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-31 19:17 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-01 08:37 +0200
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-01 06:11 -0500
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-01 15:10 +0200
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 22:40 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-31 23:50 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 08:20 -0500
                Re: Time is absolute not relative mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-09-01 22:57 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 05:46 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-09-02 06:03 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 09:24 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-02 13:01 -0400
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-02 21:04 +0200
            Re: Time is absolute not relative kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-31 20:49 -0700
              Re: Time is absolute not relative kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-01 01:48 -0400
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-01 06:28 -0500
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-01 09:12 -0400
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-01 07:54 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-01 06:25 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-01 06:36 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-01 14:20 -0400
              Re: Time is absolute not relative Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-01 06:18 -0500
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-01 07:03 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 09:06 -0500
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-01 07:16 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 09:42 -0500
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-01 10:20 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-01 10:34 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 12:37 -0500
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-02 08:07 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 12:49 -0500
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-02 07:13 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-02 13:05 -0400
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 12:47 -0500
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-02 13:07 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 15:28 -0500
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-01 12:41 -0500
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-02 08:45 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 22:46 -0700
            Re: Time is absolute not relative Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-31 23:28 -0700
            Re: Time is absolute not relative Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-01 15:53 +0200
        Re: Time is absolute not relative Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 23:26 -0700
      Re: Time is absolute not relative rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 16:58 -0700
        Re: Time is absolute not relative John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-30 21:06 -0700
          Re: Time is absolute not relative YBM <ybmess@nooos.fr.invalid> - 2015-08-31 09:41 -0300
        Re: Time is absolute not relative John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-30 21:13 -0700
          Re: Time is absolute not relative rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 21:18 -0700
            Re: Time is absolute not relative John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-30 21:53 -0700
              Re: Time is absolute not relative Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 22:01 -0700
              Re: Time is absolute not relative rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-31 11:24 -0700
        Re: Time is absolute not relative mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-08-30 22:53 -0700
          Re: Time is absolute not relative rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-31 11:30 -0700
  Time is absolute not relative bruntlybunky <bruntlybunky@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 18:43 -0700

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