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Re: Time is absolute not relative

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Time is absolute not relative
Date	2015-09-02 12:47 -0500
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On 9/2/2015 9:13 AM, kenseto wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 10:42:29 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 9/1/2015 9:16 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 10:06:40 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 9/1/2015 9:03 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>> The LT does not require two synched clocks in each frame. It predicts the rate
>>>>> of a single moving clock compared to the rate of the observer's clock
>>>>> and the result is 1/gamma. BTW there is no such thing as an inertial frame on earth.
>>>>
>>>> Every one of these three sentence is flat wrong.
>>>
>>> They are wrong according to your failed theory of SR. They are correct according to IRT.
>>>
>>
>> Well, you made a statement about the Lorentz transforms. The Lorentz
>> transforms belong to SR and IRT can't have them. The statement you made
>> about the Lorentz transforms of SR is flat wrong.
>>
>> And if IRT is going to make the statement that there is no such thing as
>> an inertial frame on earth, then IRT is a bag of nonsense.
>
> You need to read the definition of an inertial frame.
>

Sure. Here's a good description: In physics, an inertial frame of 
reference (also inertial reference frame or inertial frame or Galilean 
reference frame or inertial space) is a frame of reference that 
describes time and space homogeneously, isotropically, and in a 
time-independent manner.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Thread

Time is absolute not relative Basti05b@aol.com - 2015-08-27 04:52 -0700
  Re: Time is absolute not relative Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-27 05:13 -0700
    Re: Time is absolute not relative Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-29 13:27 +0200
      Re: Time is absolute not relative Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-29 05:09 -0700
        Re: Time is absolute not relative mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-08-29 23:33 -0700
          Re: Time is absolute not relative Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-30 05:04 -0700
            Re: Time is absolute not relative mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-08-30 08:28 -0700
            Re: Time is absolute not relative kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-30 08:45 -0700
              Re: Time is absolute not relative Reginald Ehrett <chasi@competence.org> - 2015-08-30 15:49 +0000
        Re: Time is absolute not relative Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-30 01:11 +0200
  Re: Time is absolute not relative kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-30 09:06 -0700
  Re: Time is absolute not relative rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 09:51 -0700
    Re: Time is absolute not relative mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-08-30 12:35 -0700
      Re: Time is absolute not relative Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-30 16:27 -0500
        Re: Time is absolute not relative mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-08-30 23:09 -0700
          Re: Time is absolute not relative mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-08-30 23:31 -0700
          Re: Time is absolute not relative Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-31 10:58 -0500
            Re: Time is absolute not relative Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-31 20:51 +0200
              Re: Time is absolute not relative Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-31 21:11 -0500
                Re: Time is absolute not relative John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-31 19:17 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-01 08:37 +0200
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-01 06:11 -0500
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-01 15:10 +0200
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 22:40 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-31 23:50 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 08:20 -0500
                Re: Time is absolute not relative mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-09-01 22:57 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 05:46 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-09-02 06:03 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 09:24 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-02 13:01 -0400
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-02 21:04 +0200
            Re: Time is absolute not relative kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-31 20:49 -0700
              Re: Time is absolute not relative kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-01 01:48 -0400
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-01 06:28 -0500
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-01 09:12 -0400
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-01 07:54 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-01 06:25 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-01 06:36 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-01 14:20 -0400
              Re: Time is absolute not relative Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-01 06:18 -0500
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-01 07:03 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 09:06 -0500
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-01 07:16 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 09:42 -0500
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-01 10:20 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-01 10:34 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 12:37 -0500
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-02 08:07 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 12:49 -0500
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-02 07:13 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-02 13:05 -0400
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 12:47 -0500
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-02 13:07 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 15:28 -0500
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-01 12:41 -0500
                Re: Time is absolute not relative kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-02 08:45 -0700
                Re: Time is absolute not relative Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 22:46 -0700
            Re: Time is absolute not relative Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-31 23:28 -0700
            Re: Time is absolute not relative Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-01 15:53 +0200
        Re: Time is absolute not relative Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 23:26 -0700
      Re: Time is absolute not relative rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 16:58 -0700
        Re: Time is absolute not relative John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-30 21:06 -0700
          Re: Time is absolute not relative YBM <ybmess@nooos.fr.invalid> - 2015-08-31 09:41 -0300
        Re: Time is absolute not relative John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-30 21:13 -0700
          Re: Time is absolute not relative rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 21:18 -0700
            Re: Time is absolute not relative John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-30 21:53 -0700
              Re: Time is absolute not relative Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 22:01 -0700
              Re: Time is absolute not relative rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-31 11:24 -0700
        Re: Time is absolute not relative mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-08-30 22:53 -0700
          Re: Time is absolute not relative rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-31 11:30 -0700
  Time is absolute not relative bruntlybunky <bruntlybunky@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 18:43 -0700

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