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Re: parallel universe

From "A.G.McDowell" <andrew-mcdowell@o2.co.uk>
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.written
Subject Re: parallel universe
Date 2015-08-28 06:26 +0100
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On 28/08/2015 05:11, Joseph Nebus wrote:
> In<ntrrwE.13A7@kithrup.com>  djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) writes:
>
>> In article<JrOdnfa8LPlVOULInZ2dnUU7-Q-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>> tony<tony@hotmail.com>  wrote:
>>> What are some of the earliest parallel universe stories?
>>>
>
>> Well, there's "If Lee Had Lost at Gettysburg," mentioned in
>> Boucher's _Rocket to the Morgue_ by a Tuckerization of Robert
>> Heinlein.
>
>> The author: Winston Churchill.
>
>          Is that really a proper parallel universe story?  It's an
> alternate history, yes, but surely the trait that distinguishes an
> alternate history from a parallel universe is the discovery of, and
> possible interaction with, one universe from another.
>
What interests me in a parallel universe story is the world of that 
universe. Having somebody visit it from our world is a good way to 
describe it, and the differences between that world and our world, but I 
don't consider it essential. I don't consider Jo Walton's "Small Change" 
series lessened by the fact that there is no communication between that 
parallel world and our world.

(I don't consider them must-read, either, but if you are interested in 
dystopias in which Britain is ruled by a clique of right-wing 
aristocratic fascists and the heros would all, in our world, be eligble 
for positive discrimination, they may be right up your street. My Mother 
lived through World War II and a copy of Ha'penny was my answer to her 
question "are there women science fiction writers?". She wasn't appalled 
by grating impossibilities in the world pictured, but didn't find it all 
that great either).

PS I also offered her the loan of my treasured copy of Tiptree's 10,000 
light-years from home, but she wasn't interested in Science Fiction, 
even when written by women, which I have to agree is a correct 
identification of a distinction without a difference.

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parallel universe "tony" <tony@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-27 20:01 -0400
  Re: parallel universe "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-27 20:04 -0400
    Re: parallel universe ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-08-28 00:14 +0000
      Re: parallel universe Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 17:24 -0700
        Re: parallel universe nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2015-08-28 13:58 +0000
          Re: parallel universe Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-08-28 11:02 -0700
            Re: parallel universe Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-29 05:01 -0700
  Re: parallel universe djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-08-28 01:53 +0000
    Re: parallel universe nebusj-@-rpi-.edu (Joseph Nebus) - 2015-08-28 04:11 +0000
      Re: parallel universe "A.G.McDowell" <andrew-mcdowell@o2.co.uk> - 2015-08-28 06:26 +0100
        Re: parallel universe "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-28 13:24 -0400
          Re: parallel universe "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2015-08-28 20:33 +0100
          Re: parallel universe Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-28 14:58 -0700
            Re: parallel universe "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-28 18:11 -0400
              Re: parallel universe Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-28 23:29 -0700
                Re: parallel universe "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-29 13:08 -0400
                Re: parallel universe wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-31 09:12 -0400
                Re: parallel universe Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-14 10:29 -0700
              Re: parallel universe Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-29 04:35 -0700
                Re: parallel universe wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-31 09:27 -0400
                Re: parallel universe Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-31 08:05 -0700
                Re: parallel universe wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-02 15:52 -0400
                Re: parallel universe petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-09-02 13:31 -0700
                Re: parallel universe David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-02 20:35 -0500
                Re: parallel universe Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 21:47 -0700
              Re: parallel universe David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-08-29 09:08 -0600
                Re: parallel universe "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-29 13:10 -0400
                Re: parallel universe Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-08-29 19:37 +0100
                Re: parallel universe "tony" <tony@hotmail.com> - 2015-11-23 19:40 -0500
                Re: parallel universe David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-11-23 18:32 -0700
                Re: parallel universe Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-11-24 04:40 -0800
                Re: parallel universe Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-11-24 11:12 -0700
                Re: parallel universe Steve Coltrin <spcoltri@omcl.org> - 2015-11-24 12:08 -0700
                Re: parallel universe Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-11-24 13:07 -0700
                Re: parallel universe "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 11:21 -0800
                Re: parallel universe petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-24 11:58 -0800
                Re: parallel universe wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-29 10:09 -0500
                Re: parallel universe "John F. Eldredge" <john@jfeldredge.com> - 2015-12-02 02:51 +0000
                Re: parallel universe Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-12-02 01:12 -0800
                Re: parallel universe petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-12-02 06:44 -0800
                Re: parallel universe David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-12-03 01:03 -0600
                Re: parallel universe petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-12-03 06:19 -0800
                Re: parallel universe Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-11-24 14:30 -0800
                Re: parallel universe "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-24 18:02 -0500
                Re: parallel universe David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-11-25 21:34 -0600
                Re: parallel universe Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-11-25 08:29 +0800
                Re: parallel universe Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 16:49 -0700
                Re: parallel universe Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 19:44 -0600
                Re: parallel universe Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-11-26 10:43 +0800
                Re: parallel universe wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-12-02 06:14 -0500
                Re: parallel universe Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-11-24 17:59 -0800
                Re: parallel universe Chrysi Cat <chrysicat@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 20:50 -0700
                Re: parallel universe Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-11-26 10:44 +0800
                Re: parallel universe Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-11-27 04:01 -0800
                Re: parallel universe Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-11-28 09:35 +0800
                Re: parallel universe Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-11-28 02:48 -0800
                Re: parallel universe Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-11-29 12:06 +0800
                Re: parallel universe David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-11-24 17:44 -0700
                Re: parallel universe Brenda <brendawriter@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-24 22:45 -0500
                Re: parallel universe ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-11-25 04:07 +0000
                Re: parallel universe Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-11-24 21:35 -0700
                Re: parallel universe wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-12-02 06:18 -0500
                Re: parallel universe Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2015-11-24 22:21 -0800
              Re: parallel universe William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 12:48 -0400
                Re: parallel universe William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 13:32 -0400
                Re: parallel universe Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-29 13:39 -0700
                Re: parallel universe Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-29 14:06 -0700
                Re: parallel universe Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-08-29 22:58 +0100
                Re: parallel universe "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 20:02 -0400
                Re: parallel universe Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-29 17:17 -0700
          Re: parallel universe wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-28 21:27 -0400
          Re: parallel universe Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-14 10:26 -0700
            Re: parallel universe David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-10-15 01:27 -0500
      Re: parallel universe djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-08-28 13:04 +0000
        Re: parallel universe petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-08-28 06:26 -0700
          Re: parallel universe David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-28 22:51 -0500
            Re: parallel universe "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 10:50 -0700
              Re: parallel universe William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 14:11 -0400
              Re: parallel universe David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-29 21:35 -0500
                Re: parallel universe Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-31 03:48 -0700
                Re: parallel universe Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-31 15:50 -0700
                Re: parallel universe Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-31 18:18 -0700
                Re: parallel universe wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-02 16:01 -0400
                Re: parallel universe Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-09-02 14:29 -0600
                Re: parallel universe wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-02 16:32 -0400
                Re: parallel universe David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-09-02 15:54 -0600
                [OT] Archie comics question  (was: parallel universe) wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-03 07:50 -0400
                Re: [OT] Archie comics question  (was: parallel universe) Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-09-03 11:53 -0400
                Re: [OT] Archie comics question (was: parallel universe) nebusj-@-rpi-.edu (Joseph Nebus) - 2015-09-03 22:31 +0000
                Re: [OT] Archie comics question (was: parallel universe) Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-09-04 02:01 -0400
                Re: [OT] Archie comics question (was: parallel universe) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-04 06:28 -0700
                Re: [OT] Archie comics question (was: parallel universe) David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-04 11:56 -0500
                Re: [OT] Archie comics question (was: parallel universe) Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-09-04 13:17 -0400
                Re: [OT] Archie comics question  (was: parallel universe) wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-04 07:53 -0400
                Re: [OT] Archie comics question  (was: parallel universe) Richard Hershberger <rrhersh@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 05:44 -0700
                Re: [OT] Archie comics question  (was: parallel universe) Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-09-04 11:27 -0400
                Re: [OT] Archie comics question  (was: parallel universe) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-04 11:23 -0700
                Re: [OT] Archie comics question  (was: parallel universe) Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-09-04 15:10 -0400
                Re: [OT] Archie comics question David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-09-04 13:13 -0600
                Re: [OT] Archie comics question Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-09-04 15:15 -0400
                Re: [OT] Archie comics question Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:46 -0700
                Re: [OT] Archie comics question wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-04 23:24 -0400
                Re: [OT] Archie comics question David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-05 11:28 -0500
                Re: [OT] Archie comics question Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-05 10:03 -0700
                Re: [OT] Archie comics question David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-06 23:17 -0500
                Re: [OT] Archie comics question Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 09:38 -0700
                Re: [OT] Archie comics question David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-09-03 11:12 -0600
                Re: parallel universe wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-02 15:58 -0400
                Re: parallel universe David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-02 20:37 -0500
                Re: parallel universe Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-03 03:16 -0700
                Re: parallel universe "Raymond Daley" <raymond.daley@ntlworld.com> - 2015-09-04 11:17 +0100
                Re: parallel universe Richard Hershberger <rrhersh@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 05:43 -0700
                Re: parallel universe David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-04 12:04 -0500
                Re: parallel universe Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-05 06:23 -0700
              Re: parallel universe wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-02 16:28 -0400
                Re: parallel universe David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-02 20:43 -0500
                Re: parallel universe Steve Coltrin <spcoltri@omcl.org> - 2015-09-04 11:22 -0600
                Re: parallel universe wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-04 23:25 -0400
                Re: parallel universe Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-05 07:58 -0700
                Re: parallel universe "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:56 -0700
                Re: parallel universe David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-04 16:24 -0500
                Re: parallel universe Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-05 06:36 -0700
        Re: parallel universe Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-28 10:28 -0600
  Re: parallel universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-28 01:03 -0700
    Re: parallel universe Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-28 06:45 -0700
      Re: parallel universe Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-28 10:11 -0700
        Re: parallel universe Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-28 13:19 -0400
          Re: parallel universe Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-29 04:42 -0700
            Re: parallel universe David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-08-29 09:23 -0600
              Re: parallel universe "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 13:46 -0400
                Re: parallel universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-29 14:16 -0700
              Re: parallel universe Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-29 17:13 -0700
                Re: parallel universe wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-02 16:05 -0400
            Re: parallel universe Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-29 11:57 -0400
              Re: parallel universe William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 13:39 -0400
                Re: parallel universe Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-29 15:52 -0400
                Re: parallel universe Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-29 16:06 -0600
            Re: parallel universe Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-08-29 19:44 +0100
              Re: parallel universe wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-02 16:16 -0400
                Re: parallel universe Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-09-02 22:39 +0100
            Re: parallel universe wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-02 16:31 -0400
              Re: parallel universe David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-02 20:44 -0500
                Re: parallel universe David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-09-02 20:20 -0600
                Re: parallel universe "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 23:24 -0700
                Re: parallel universe Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-03 03:30 -0700
                Re: parallel universe wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-03 07:58 -0400
                Re: parallel universe wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-03 08:11 -0400
        Re: parallel universe David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-28 22:50 -0500
        Re: parallel universe Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-28 22:14 -0600
        Re: parallel universe Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-14 10:15 -0700
    Re: parallel universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-29 00:55 -0700
      Re: parallel universe je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-29 01:13 -0700
        Re: parallel universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-29 09:17 -0700
          Re: parallel universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-29 09:30 -0700
            Re: parallel universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-08-29 19:23 +0200
              Re: parallel universe Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-29 13:54 -0700
              Re: parallel universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-08-31 07:06 +0200
            Re: parallel universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-29 23:43 -0700
              Re: parallel universe Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-30 05:20 -0700
                Re: parallel universe Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-08-30 13:53 +0000
                Re: parallel universe David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-08-30 09:03 -0600
                Re: parallel universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-30 13:01 -0700
                Re: parallel universe Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-30 15:08 -0700
                Re: parallel universe William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 16:10 -0400
                Re: parallel universe "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-30 16:36 -0400
                Re: parallel universe William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 18:59 -0400
                Re: parallel universe Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 20:51 -0700
      Re: parallel universe "tony" <tony@hotmail.com> - 2015-10-13 20:18 -0400
    Re: parallel universe Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-08-30 03:33 +0000
      Re: parallel universe Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-31 03:54 -0700
  Re: parallel universe Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 01:42 -0700
    Re: parallel universe Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 02:08 -0700
      Re: parallel universe Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-09-20 02:23 +0000

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