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Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy?

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy?
Date	2015-08-27 14:29 -0500
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On 8/27/2015 1:10 PM, kefischer wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 08:55:43 -0500, Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/26/2015 8:18 PM, kefischer wrote:
>>>           The effects of gravity are identical to the effects
>>> of acceleration, that is the PoE,
>>
>> Then you have misunderstood the PoE. The PoE says no such thing.
>
>         You are full of nonsense shit, bodkin,
> with attempted overpowering pretense
> of complete knowledge.
>
>          Go back and read everything Einstein
> wrote about the PoE,

Exactly! and you should do that yourself. Read the German, not the 
English translation, because you've already gotten yourself confused in 
thinking that Principle of Equivalence and Equivalence Principle are two 
different things. Einstein wrote NEITHER English phrase. What's the 
German phrase he used?

You have not read everything that Einstein wrote about the PoE. You have 
read a few introductory pages and then given up on the rest. Had you not 
given up on reading the rest of what Einstein said on the matter, you 
would have seen that Einstein himself does not declare that acceleration 
is completely equivalent to gravity.

> and ignore the watered
> down nonsense other writers add.
>
>
>> Tidal effects of gravity CANNOT be replicated by any acceleration.
>
>          Of course they can, with relative motion after
> it is established what is accelerating,

Prove it. Einstein said OTHERWISE.

> the Divergent
> Matter model is far greater in predicting ability and
> scope, because matter expanding is more rational
> than space-time contracting, it is a literal interpretation
> of the PoE with a rational physical process providing
> the physics along with the lengthening units of
> measure.
>
>
>> The only aspect of gravity that can be replicated by acceleration is
>> UNIFORM gravity, which in fact the PoE is very clear about.
>
>         Without matter expanding, but matter can be
> expanding, that makes the difference, relativity
> is still involved in observation and measurements,
> but not in the process of matter expanding.
>
>
>>> there is no way the
>>> term "gravitational mass" or "inertial mass" is involved
>>> in that statement, but no doubt you and everybody
>>> else will continue to be jackasses and continue
>>> to confuse the PoE with the equivalence principle.
>
>
>        Why do you always leave quotes hanging,
> do you run out od steam, or don't know how
> to respond?
>
>         The paragraph above is the real issue that
> is holding back advances in gravity theory
> because the confused use of the "equivalence
> principle" term infers a definite existence of
> an attractive force acting at a distance.
>
>          People either are limited to what they
> were taught, or have a brain deficiency if
> they think any mysterious undetectable
> forces or fields exist that causes the
> effects of gravity.
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 11:23 -0500
  Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 10:59 -0700
  Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 11:03 -0700
    Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 13:10 -0500
      Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 22:53 -0700
        Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 07:18 -0500
          Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 23:56 -0700
            Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 07:17 -0500
              Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-29 02:29 +0200
    Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-26 11:20 -0700
      Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-26 16:12 -0400
        Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-27 10:25 -0700
  Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 11:11 -0700
  Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 05:52 -0700
    Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-26 06:27 -0700
      Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 15:54 -0700
        Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-26 16:27 -0700
          Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 17:14 -0700
            Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-26 17:25 -0700
              Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-26 21:18 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? underante <underante@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-26 19:51 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-27 00:46 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? underante <underante@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-27 03:50 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:06 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-27 16:00 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 15:10 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-27 18:54 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 09:28 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-28 16:53 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:42 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 19:05 +0200
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-29 11:38 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-29 14:42 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-30 13:29 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-30 17:24 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-30 22:04 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-31 00:26 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 21:45 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-31 01:35 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 08:55 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-27 14:10 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 14:29 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-27 17:47 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 17:43 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-27 20:31 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-27 19:08 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-27 23:49 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-28 05:25 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-28 13:02 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 19:08 +0200
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-28 17:01 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? underante <underante@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-28 10:21 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-28 11:38 -0700
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                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-05 11:38 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-28 17:07 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 09:12 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-28 15:50 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-28 14:44 -0700
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                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-28 19:47 -0700
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                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-28 02:57 -0400
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                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-08-28 09:05 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-28 16:56 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 16:07 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-28 17:19 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 16:54 -0500
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                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 14:52 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-28 17:15 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 16:51 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-29 03:26 +0200
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                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? underante <underante@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-10 04:27 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-10 05:09 -0700
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                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? underante <underante@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-12 05:11 -0700
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