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Re: puppies

From Magewolf <Magewolf@nc.rr.com>
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.written
Subject Re: puppies
Date 2015-08-24 15:53 -0400
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On 8/24/2015 3:07 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> Magewolf <Magewolf@nc.rr.com> wrote in
> news:mrfoqc$o92$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 8/24/2015 12:20 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>> "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote in
>>> news:mrdk1c$pbc$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 8/23/15 6:53 PM, David Goldfarb wrote:
>>>>> In article <mrd7n3$7e7$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> lal_truckee  <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I see reports that puppies did not fare well in Hugo
>>>>>> balloting. True or no?
>>>>>
>>>>> An understatement.  They got SPANKED.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        They are interpreting it as "The Cabal chose to burn
>>>>        down the house
>>>> rather than allow anyone else in", though, so it's not as
>>>> though they feel anything other than victory.
>>>
>>> If their goal was to garner rockets (it wasn't), they got
>>> spanked. If their goal was to provoke the perceived librul
>>> conspriacy cabal in to burning their own house down (it was),
>>> they succeeded brilliantly.
>>>
>>> I don't get why anything thought they were trying to win
>>> awards.
>>>
>>> Perhaps I just understand the troll mentality better than most.
>>>
>> Really there only two groups of people hurt by this.
>
> for small enough values of "hurt." The Hugos don't matter, and
> haven't for a logn time.
>
>> The ones
>> who would have won Hugo's in a fair year. Now I am sad for them
>> but not winning a Hugo will not kill them and most of them will
>> have chances to win another Hugo in the future. And the leaders
>> of the puppies who have put out reams of words to no purpose but
>> to show just how crazy they are.
>
> You assume it's over, and there will be no fallout next year. Which
> is possible, but they're certainly going to try. They predicted
> this, as a form lf "burning your own house down to keep from having
> to be more inclusive," and that's ammunition. Be interesting to see
> if the reasonable sounding ones can overcome the foaming at the
> mouth wingnuts on the PR front. Interesting in a "God, you people
> are fucking wingnuts on *both* sides" sort of way.
>>
>> But the Hugo's are fine and will still be fine when no one
>> remembers V.D. or his puppets names.
>>
> For values of "fine" that start and end with "who cares, the Hugos
> haven't mattered in years," I suppose.
>
No, I think the puppies have at least one more year in them. The rabids 
will have enough votes in next years nominations to swamp them again but 
after that the best they will be able to do is maybe get one nomination 
per category.

But the real story will be the sads. They had been talking about how 
losing was winning for them for a while but from the way Hoyt and 
Torgersen are melting down after the awards I think they had actually 
drank the kool aid and really believed the lurkers were supporting them 
in email. So they can either face reality or double down on the paranoia 
and conspiracy theories.

  I am betting on the double down, since Hoyt has already accused the 
Worldcon with cooking the numbers for the Hugos and Torgersen has 
started editing comments he does not like on his blog. There is supposed 
to be new management next year but Hoyt has already put herself forward 
to run things.

But what about the rank and file puppies? Will they double down as well 
or will they find better things to do with their time and money. Since 
they have completely failed to have any real effect on anything and show 
no sign of being able to do anything in the future.So I do not know if 
they will able to hold themselves together or if they will bleed off all 
but the most hard core which would make them even more of a footnote to 
the rabids.

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puppies lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-23 12:44 -0700
  Re: puppies lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-23 12:46 -0700
    Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-24 08:09 -0400
  Re: puppies jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2015-08-23 22:28 +0100
  Re: puppies Konrad Gaertner <kgaertner@tx.rr.com> - 2015-08-23 16:53 -0500
    Re: puppies Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2015-08-24 10:27 +0100
      Re: puppies "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2015-08-24 20:43 +1000
        Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-24 08:11 -0400
          Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-24 05:37 -0700
            Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-24 08:49 -0400
            Re: puppies Richard Hershberger <rrhersh@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 08:43 -0700
              Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-25 01:58 -0400
        Re: puppies Steve Coltrin <spcoltri@omcl.org> - 2015-08-24 17:48 -0600
          Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-24 22:46 -0700
          Re: puppies Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2015-08-24 22:52 -0700
  Re: puppies goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-08-23 22:53 +0000
    Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-23 19:14 -0400
      Re: puppies goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-08-24 03:08 +0000
      Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 09:20 -0700
        Re: puppies Magewolf <Magewolf@nc.rr.com> - 2015-08-24 14:48 -0400
          Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 12:07 -0700
            Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-08-24 12:49 -0700
              Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 14:16 -0700
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-08-24 14:55 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 16:31 -0700
              Re: puppies "Robert A. Woodward" <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2015-08-24 22:04 -0700
            Re: puppies Magewolf <Magewolf@nc.rr.com> - 2015-08-24 15:53 -0400
              Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 14:24 -0700
                Re: puppies Magewolf <Magewolf@nc.rr.com> - 2015-08-24 19:13 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 16:36 -0700
                Re: puppies David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-24 18:51 -0500
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 16:54 -0700
                Re: puppies Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-24 20:20 -0400
                Re: puppies goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-08-25 05:31 +0000
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 09:01 -0700
                Re: puppies Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-25 12:15 -0400
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-08-25 09:26 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 09:38 -0700
                Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 17:57 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 16:03 -0700
                Re: puppies lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-25 16:32 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 09:13 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-25 20:28 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 09:16 -0700
                Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 22:34 -0400
                Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 22:40 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 09:27 -0700
                Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-26 20:46 -0400
                Re: puppies Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 20:41 -0500
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:22 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 13:23 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 10:43 -0700
                Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-08-27 11:56 -0600
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-27 16:37 -0400
                Re: puppies "John F. Eldredge" <john@jfeldredge.com> - 2015-09-28 03:08 +0000
                Re: puppies Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-27 20:31 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-27 22:34 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-27 22:33 -0700
                Re: puppies Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-28 09:15 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 10:42 -0700
                Re: puppies Stephen Graham <graham1@speakeasy.net> - 2015-08-26 16:39 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-26 00:24 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 09:25 -0700
                Re: puppies Erik Trulsson <erikt@Update.UU.SE> - 2015-08-27 10:50 +0000
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:26 -0700
                Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 19:11 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 08:49 -0700
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-28 13:45 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 10:52 -0700
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-28 14:09 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 11:13 -0700
                Re: puppies Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-08-30 03:36 +0000
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-25 20:21 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 09:14 -0700
                Re: puppies Torbjorn Lindgren <tl@none.invalid> - 2015-08-26 23:50 +0000
                Re: puppies "Robert A. Woodward" <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2015-08-26 22:04 -0700
                Re: puppies Catherine Jefferson <spamtrap@spambouncer.org> - 2015-08-26 22:25 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:16 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 08:00 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:17 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 05:03 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 05:09 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:18 -0700
                Re: puppies Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2015-08-27 11:59 -0500
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 10:38 -0700
                Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-08-28 17:49 +0000
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 10:53 -0700
                Re: puppies hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2015-09-13 05:52 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 10:40 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 10:12 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 10:39 -0700
                Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 19:09 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 08:47 -0700
                Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-08-27 11:52 -0600
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 10:54 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 12:18 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 13:06 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 13:41 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 13:48 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 13:56 -0700
                Re: puppies Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-08-27 14:21 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 14:30 -0700
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-08-27 15:11 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 15:39 -0700
                Re: puppies Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-08-27 16:43 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 17:50 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 13:55 -0700
                Re: puppies "John F. Eldredge" <john@jfeldredge.com> - 2015-09-26 17:40 +0000
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-27 13:54 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-27 20:29 -0400
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-28 04:49 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-28 09:12 -0400
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-28 08:19 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-28 14:35 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 11:55 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-28 15:35 -0700
                Re: puppies Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-30 01:35 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-30 05:19 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 08:55 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-30 13:48 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 14:12 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-30 18:49 -0400
                Re: puppies Konrad Gaertner <kgaertner@tx.rr.com> - 2015-09-30 17:56 -0500
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-01 08:15 -0400
                Re: puppies Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-10-01 05:45 -0700
                Re: puppies William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 11:56 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-28 18:46 -0400
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-09-28 07:26 -0700
                Re: puppies Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-28 09:32 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-28 20:42 -0400
                Re: puppies Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-28 23:10 -0700
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-29 15:16 -0400
                Re: puppies Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-29 06:21 -0700
                Re: puppies Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> - 2015-09-01 10:05 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:16 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 13:38 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 10:51 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 21:23 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 08:55 -0700
                Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-08-28 17:44 +0000
                Re: puppies Torbjorn Lindgren <tl@invalid.none> - 2015-08-30 23:10 +0000
                Re: puppies goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-08-31 07:44 +0000
                Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-08-31 14:04 +0000
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-01 06:45 -0400
                Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-09-01 17:10 +0000
                Re: puppies Steve Coltrin <spcoltri@omcl.org> - 2015-09-01 12:14 -0600
                Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-09-01 12:19 -0600
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-01 23:24 -0400
                Re: puppies goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-08-29 08:12 +0000
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-30 01:26 -0400
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 07:56 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:29 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 13:39 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 10:52 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 21:25 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 08:59 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-24 22:24 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 09:02 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-25 20:30 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 09:18 -0700
                Re: puppies Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-26 17:07 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:19 -0700
                Re: puppies Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-27 17:49 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 08:50 -0700
                Re: puppies Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-28 14:30 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 15:24 -0700
                Re: puppies Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-28 23:15 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 09:20 -0700
                Re: puppies Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-01 15:22 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 15:38 -0700
                Re: puppies Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-02 11:10 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 11:43 -0700
                Re: puppies Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-02 22:54 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 09:27 -0700
          Re: puppies goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-08-24 22:47 +0000
            Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 16:31 -0700
          Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-08-28 17:38 +0000
        Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-24 19:03 -0400
          Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 16:32 -0700
    Re: puppies Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-08-23 16:31 -0700
    Re: puppies Steve Coltrin <spcoltri@omcl.org> - 2015-08-24 17:50 -0600
  Re: puppies Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 21:49 -0400
    Re: puppies Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 22:17 -0500
      Re: puppies Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-24 02:44 -0600
        Re: puppies Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 05:21 -0400
  Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 11:06 -0400
    Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:30 -0700
      Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 13:41 -0400
        Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 10:53 -0700
          Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 21:26 -0400
            Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 09:00 -0700
        Re: puppies Chris Buckley <alan@sabir.com> - 2015-08-28 15:12 +0000
          Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-08-28 09:26 -0600
          Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 09:11 -0700
          Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-28 12:19 -0400
            Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 10:44 -0700
              Re: puppies David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-28 22:56 -0500
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 09:19 -0700
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-09-01 13:43 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 11:16 -0700
                Re: puppies Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-09-01 16:39 -0600
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 16:08 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-01 17:42 -0700
                Re: puppies "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 20:52 -0400
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-02 08:26 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 08:13 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-01 23:26 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 08:14 -0700
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-09-02 08:36 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 10:18 -0700
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-09-02 10:38 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 11:42 -0700
                Re: puppies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-02 18:35 +0000
                Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-09-02 12:38 -0600
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 11:45 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-02 15:46 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 13:53 -0700
                Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-09-02 15:04 -0600
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-02 14:19 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 14:22 -0700
                Re: puppies leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2015-09-03 02:55 -0500
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-03 05:23 -0700
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-09-03 06:28 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-03 07:44 -0700
                Re: puppies Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-03 09:10 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-03 09:33 -0700
                Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-09-03 10:59 -0600
                Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-09-03 17:46 +0000
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-09-03 11:05 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 11:09 -0700
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-09-03 11:24 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 11:39 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-03 17:37 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 15:21 -0700
                Re: puppies Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 18:48 -0500
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 16:51 -0700
                Re: puppies Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2015-09-03 18:19 -0700
                Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-09-03 19:14 +0000
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 13:05 -0700
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-09-03 13:08 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 13:19 -0700
                Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-09-04 14:57 +0000
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 11:06 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-03 11:40 -0700
                Re: puppies Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-09-03 15:13 -0400
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-03 12:54 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-03 17:41 -0400
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-03 19:29 -0700
                Re: puppies Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-09-03 20:53 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 09:12 -0700
                Re: puppies Konrad Gaertner <kgaertner@tx.rr.com> - 2015-09-04 13:48 -0500
                Re: puppies Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-09-04 15:09 -0400
                Re: puppies "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2015-09-04 21:16 +0100
                Re: puppies Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-09-04 13:29 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:44 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-05 06:40 -0400
                Re: puppies Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-09-05 11:45 -0700
                Re: puppies goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-09-05 00:30 +0000
                Re: puppies Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:01 -0500
                Re: puppies Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-09-05 01:43 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 09:02 -0700
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-09-08 15:02 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 12:55 -0700
                Re: puppies hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2015-09-13 07:22 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 10:42 -0700
                Re: puppies Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-09-13 11:46 -0600
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-13 14:02 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 22:18 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 22:13 -0700
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-09-13 16:25 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 22:20 -0700
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-09-06 21:42 -0400
                Re: puppies Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-09-04 12:39 -0700
                Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-09-04 23:58 -0400
                Re: puppies Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-09-05 11:31 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 09:03 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 09:10 -0700
                Re: puppies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-04 16:19 +0000
                Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-09-04 10:24 -0600
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 09:44 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-04 10:43 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-04 10:20 -0700
                Re: puppies David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-02 20:52 -0500
                Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-09-02 20:21 -0600
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-02 20:41 -0700
                Re: puppies leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2015-09-03 04:27 -0500
                Re: puppies Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2015-09-03 18:17 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-03 07:30 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 09:26 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 09:25 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 11:44 -0700
                Re: puppies David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-02 20:53 -0500
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 09:26 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-03 07:32 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 09:30 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-03 13:14 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 11:05 -0700
                Re: puppies David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-03 20:06 -0500
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-02 15:41 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 13:52 -0700
                Re: puppies leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2015-09-03 04:20 -0500
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 09:29 -0700
                Re: puppies David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-03 20:02 -0500
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 09:07 -0700
                Re: puppies David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-04 11:52 -0500
                Re: puppies Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-09-04 10:14 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 10:55 -0700
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-09-04 14:57 -0400
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-05 07:05 -0400
      Re: puppies "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2015-08-29 00:09 +1000
        Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-28 10:32 -0400
          Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 09:03 -0700
            Re: puppies "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2015-08-29 02:20 +1000
              Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 10:45 -0700
        Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 09:02 -0700
          Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-28 14:02 -0400
            Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 11:10 -0700
              Re: puppies Stephen Harker <sjharker@netspace.net.au> - 2015-08-29 08:00 +1000
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 15:25 -0700
  Re: puppies "Kevin C." <kevin_c75@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-31 17:02 -0700
    Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-31 20:23 -0400
      Re: puppies "Kevin C." <kevin_c75@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-01 04:12 -0700
        Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-09-01 14:05 -0400
        Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-01 23:28 -0400
          Re: puppies "Kevin C." <kevin_c75@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-04 17:07 -0700
            Re: puppies Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 19:20 -0500
              Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-09-05 01:38 +0000
              Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 08:56 -0700
            Re: puppies Konrad Gaertner <kgaertner@tx.rr.com> - 2015-09-04 20:15 -0500
            Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-09-04 23:55 -0400
              Re: puppies Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 23:32 -0500
                Re: puppies Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-09-05 10:39 -0700
                Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:05 -0400
            Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-05 06:49 -0400
              Re: puppies Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 07:28 +0200
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 09:00 -0700
    Re: puppies Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-08-31 19:30 -0500
      Re: puppies "Kevin C." <kevin_c75@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-01 04:14 -0700
    Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-01 06:43 -0400
    Re: puppies Konrad Gaertner <kgaertner@tx.rr.com> - 2015-09-01 14:08 -0500
      Re: puppies "Kevin C." <kevin_c75@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-01 15:50 -0700
  "Honey Badgers"?  (was: puppies) wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-06 07:50 -0400
    Re: "Honey Badgers"?  (was: puppies) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-06 06:20 -0700
      Re: "Honey Badgers"?  (was: puppies) wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-06 10:42 -0400
        Re: "Honey Badgers"?  (was: puppies) Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-09-06 09:11 -0600
          Re: "Honey Badgers"?  (was: puppies) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-06 10:34 -0700
          Re: "Honey Badgers"?  (was: puppies) Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-06 12:48 -0700
            Re: "Honey Badgers"? (was: puppies) nebusj-@-rpi-.edu (Joseph Nebus) - 2015-09-07 04:24 +0000
              Re: "Honey Badgers"? (was: puppies) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 11:25 -0400
                Re: "Honey Badgers"? (was: puppies) Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 10:46 -0500
                Re: "Honey Badgers"? "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2015-09-08 14:49 +1000
              Re: "Honey Badgers"? lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-07 11:43 -0700
                Re: "Honey Badgers"? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-09-07 19:18 +0000
      Re: "Honey Badgers"?  (was: puppies) wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-07 15:34 -0400
        Re: "Honey Badgers"?  (was: puppies) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-08 05:16 -0700

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