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Re: This morning's crap idea.

From William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com>
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.written
Subject Re: This morning's crap idea.
Date 2015-08-23 16:54 -0400
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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References (2 earlier) <mra0od$rs2$1@dont-email.me> <fP2dnaRS2p-AnUTInZ2dnUU7-K-dnZ2d@earthlink.com> <ntIFIy.1ErF@kithrup.com> <mrd43q$n0s$1@dont-email.me> <c5c18c7c-7206-421e-8cff-b372541032ef@googlegroups.com>

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Kevrob wrote:
> On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 2:42:46 PM UTC-4, William Vetter wrote:
>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>> In article <fP2dnaRS2p-AnUTInZ2dnUU7-K-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
>>> David Harmon  <bad@example.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 10:27:00 -0400 in rec.arts.sf.written, "Sea Wasp
>>>> (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote,
>>>>> On 8/22/15 9:46 AM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>>>> In article <ntH20v.w4F@kithrup.com>,
>>>>>> David Goldfarb <goldfarbdj@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The writer ultimately managed to sell a story to either Harlan Ellison
>>>>>>> or an HE expy.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What's expy?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 	Short for "exported character", it's a character who is an obvious 
>>>>> duplicate of some other real person or copyrighted character, just with 
>>>>> a different name and enough tweaks to keep from being sued.
>>>> 
>>>> Wouldn't that be an "imported character"?
>>>> 
>>> Depends on where you're standing, perhaps.
>> 
>> I thought that was MacGuffin
>
> Nope. A MacGuffin is an object, piece of information, that motivates the
> characters' action: plot fuel.  Related to "plot coupons."
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macguffin 
>
> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PlotCoupon  
> (Credit given to Nick Lowe, see http://news.ansible.uk/plotdev.html )
>
> Kevin R

sorry.  I was thinking of the one where you put your friends, cat, fans 
who give you ten bucks...into the story, but I can't remember the word 
for it.

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This morning's crap idea. William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 12:57 -0400
  Re: This morning's crap idea. Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 10:04 -0700
    Re: This morning's crap idea. Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2015-08-19 23:40 -0700
  Re: This morning's crap idea. petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-08-19 10:07 -0700
    Re: This morning's crap idea. djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-08-19 17:16 +0000
  Re: This morning's crap idea. djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-08-19 17:11 +0000
    Re: This morning's crap idea. petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-08-19 10:17 -0700
    Re: This morning's crap idea. William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 13:40 -0400
      Re: This morning's crap idea. Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-08-19 11:22 -0700
        Re: This morning's crap idea. Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2015-08-19 17:19 -0700
      Re: This morning's crap idea. djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-08-19 20:06 +0000
        Re: This morning's crap idea. William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 16:35 -0400
        Re: This morning's crap idea. Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-08-20 04:35 +0000
          Re: This morning's crap idea. djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-08-20 13:44 +0000
            Re: This morning's crap idea. William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 09:55 -0400
              Re: This morning's crap idea. ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-08-20 14:26 +0000
                Re: This morning's crap idea. William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 10:35 -0400
                Re: This morning's crap idea. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-20 13:12 -0400
                Re: This morning's crap idea. "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-20 14:01 -0400
                Re: This morning's crap idea. "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2015-08-21 00:48 +0100
                Re: This morning's crap idea. Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2015-08-20 18:18 -0700
                Re: This morning's crap idea. ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-08-21 03:26 +0000
              Re: This morning's crap idea. Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-20 08:29 -0700
                Re: This morning's crap idea. Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-08-20 19:09 +0000
                Re: This morning's crap idea. Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-20 13:23 -0700
                Re: This morning's crap idea. Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-08-20 23:19 +0000
              Re: This morning's crap idea. Richard Hershberger <rrhersh@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 08:29 -0700
              Re: This morning's crap idea. Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2015-08-20 16:34 -0700
                Re: This morning's crap idea. Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-08-20 18:41 -0700
                Re: This morning's crap idea. Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-08-21 18:31 +0100
                Re: This morning's crap idea. goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-08-22 06:58 +0000
                Re: This morning's crap idea. djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-08-22 13:46 +0000
                Re: This morning's crap idea. "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-22 10:27 -0400
                Re: This morning's crap idea. David Harmon <source@netcom.com> - 2015-08-22 16:04 -0700
                Re: This morning's crap idea. Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-22 16:30 -0700
                Re: This morning's crap idea. Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:36 -0700
                Re: This morning's crap idea. Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-22 17:53 -0700
                Re: This morning's crap idea. Shawn Wilson <ikonoqlast@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 14:56 -0700
                Re: This morning's crap idea. Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-23 07:55 -0700
                Re: This morning's crap idea. Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-23 08:00 -0700
                Re: This morning's crap idea. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-24 08:37 -0400
                Re: This morning's crap idea. Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-24 07:35 -0700
                Re: This morning's crap idea. djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-08-23 00:47 +0000
                Re: This morning's crap idea. William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 14:42 -0400
                Re: This morning's crap idea. Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-23 13:13 -0700
                Re: This morning's crap idea. William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 16:54 -0400
                Re: This morning's crap idea. Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-08-23 14:06 -0700
                Re: This morning's crap idea. William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 17:19 -0400
                Re: This morning's crap idea. Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 20:11 -0500
  Re: This morning's crap idea. "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-19 17:46 -0400
    Re: This morning's crap idea. ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-08-20 00:23 +0000
    Re: This morning's crap idea. Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 10:01 -0700
      Re: This morning's crap idea. goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-08-21 08:24 +0000
  Re: This morning's crap idea. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-19 20:34 -0400
    Re: This morning's crap idea. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-19 20:59 -0600
      Re: This morning's crap idea. William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 10:00 -0400
        Re: This morning's crap idea. Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-20 22:25 -0700
          Re: This morning's crap idea. ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-08-21 05:40 +0000
          Re: This morning's crap idea. William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 11:21 -0400
  Re: This morning's crap idea. Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-20 15:24 -0700
  Re: This morning's crap idea. William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 15:40 -0400
  Re: This morning's crap idea. William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 10:37 -0400
    Re: This morning's crap idea. ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-10-19 14:45 +0000
      Re: This morning's crap idea. Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-10-19 07:52 -0700
    Re: This morning's crap idea. Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-10-19 17:19 -0400
      Re: This morning's crap idea. Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-10-19 16:09 -0700
        Re: This morning's crap idea. William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-10-20 01:02 -0400
        Re: This morning's crap idea. leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2015-10-20 03:52 -0500
    Re: This morning's crap idea. Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-20 21:18 -0700

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