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Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C?

From James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C?
Date 2015-08-22 00:07 -0400
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On 08/21/2015 08:17 PM, David Kleinecke wrote:
> On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 1:39:57 PM UTC-7, Richard Bos wrote:
>> David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 19, 2015 at 5:13:07 PM UTC-7, Keith Thompson wrote:

[Restore clipped context:]
>>>> David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>> On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 9:51:00 AM UTC-7, Ike Naar wrote:
>>>>>> On 2015-08-18, David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Alternativly I could some other non-ASCII character (CTRL-Z, for example
>>>>>>> for soft EOL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CTRL-Z *is* an ASCII character (SUB, code point 26(decimal) or 1A(hex)).
>>>>>
>>>>> As elsewhere - a bag of tells. What's your name for the letters we
>>>>> actually use (hint: not printable)?
[End restored section]

...
>>>> The word "alphabet" is perhaps not the best choice for what you're
>>>> trying to say.  The word often refers to just letters; see for example,
>>>> the isalpha() function.
>>>
>>> Alphabet is the usual word for whatever character ste a text is using.
>>
>> '.' and '(' are in your alphabet?
>>
>> Richard
> 
> Be careful here "text" includes a lot of things like Chinese writing
> and Sumerian and Egyptian (see Unicode - they may even include the 
> figures on an Easter Island taking biard by now).
> 
> The crucial attribute of a text is that it is a sequence of glyphs -
> written in a book, carved on a rock, you name it). If presented with
> a text I haven't seen before I count the different glyphs (not always
> easy). The set of all different glyphs is the alphabet of the text. 
> The alphabet the C standard is thinking of contains the 91 glyphs
> listed in 5.2.1 plus the space character. These 92 glyphs are encoded
> as byte values in a way the standard leaves us to guess is what is
> called the ANSII character set. The standard adds some byte values that    
> that are encoded by glyph pairs.
> 
> My question was - is there a generally agree-upon name for these 92
> glyphs (incuding the blank glyph)?

Not really - all of the terms in the standard that might otherwise
apply, apply to the characters, not to the glyphs that are displayed
when those characters are sent to a display device. The reason the
standard doesn't have any names for sets of glyphs is because the
standard doesn't say anything about glyphs, which are outside the scope
of the standard. That's the key reason why the following statement is true:

> Note C would remain C if all the alphabet glyphs were re-arranged or 
> changed into diferent shapes.

If the C standard actually said something about the glyphs, you wouldn't
be free to rearrange them.

"The term _printing character_ refers to a member of a locale-specific
set of characters, each of which occupies one printing position on a
display device;the term _control character_ refers to a member of a
locale-specific set of characters that are not printing
characters. All letters and digits are printing characters." (7.4p3)

The 92 characters that produce the glyphs you're talking about when
displayed include 29 graphic characters and the blank character. That
those 30 characters are also printing characters must be inferred - it's
not stated directly. However, those 92 characters are precisely all of
the members of the basic source character set and the basic execution
characters set that are NOT described as control characters. It follows
from the definitions above that all of them must be printing characters.

Now, your original question specified that "printable" was not an
acceptable answer. Would "printing" be acceptable? If not, then there's
no answer to your question within the context of the C standard.

This leads to some questions - would the category whose name you're
asking for include only the source character set, only the execution
character set, or both? With regard to your concentration on glyphs, the
distinction is as follows: glyphs corresponding to the members of the
source character set are normally displayed only when editing the source
code. Glyphs corresponding to the members of the execution character set
are normally only displayed when a program calls one of the output
functions (such as printf()) on a stream that is connected to a display
device. Glyphs representing those same characters will also be seen when
calling text display routines associated with the graphics system you're
using, though that's outside the scope of the C standard, and the glyphs
produced by the graphics system might not match the glyphs produced by
the display device.

Should the category whose name you're asking after include the glyphs
produced by sending printing characters from the extended versions of
those character sets to a display device? The extended character set
will generally include all letters not used in US English, as well as a
large variety of various graphic characters.

Referring back to your original comment, the SUB character from the
ASCII character set would be a control character, not a printing
character, and it would be a part of the extended character set, not the
basic character set.
-- 
James Kuyper

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  Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-08-12 23:52 +0100
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                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 17:17 -0700
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                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 18:59 -0700
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                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-08-22 10:45 -0400
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-08-21 17:40 -0400
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      Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-08-13 00:12 +0000
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      Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-08-13 14:49 +0200
        Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-08-13 14:05 +0100
        Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-13 14:50 +0100
        Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-13 09:14 -0700
        Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-08-13 12:42 -0400
    Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2015-08-13 10:56 -0400
      Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-13 09:16 -0700
        Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Lőrinczy Zsigmond <zsiga@nospam.for.me> - 2015-08-13 18:12 +0200
          Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-08-13 12:50 -0400
            Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Lőrinczy Zsigmond <nospam@for.me> - 2015-08-13 20:07 +0200
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