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| From | Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.forth |
| Subject | Re: Forth without integer data stack. It is even better! |
| Date | 2015-08-18 01:17 +0200 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <mqtpub$d21$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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Bernd Paysan wrote: > Given that Apple is part of the Khronos group, and did benefit from having > OpenGL, and that their market share is between 10 and 20% depending on > platform (mobile phones 20%, desktops around 10%), they don't have the > power for "my way or no way". There can be another reason for not saying that they support Vulkan: Vulkan isn't ready, and they want people to use Metal for low-overhead 3D graphics, which is currently a competitive edge over Android - Marshmallow will unlikely have Vulkan (Vulkan is not finished yet), so we'll have to wait until Android Nutella (or whatever the name of Android N will be ;-). So when they would announce now that they will be backing Vulkan, and Metal is just an intermediate API, people will wait for Vulkan, and not port to Metal, leveling the field. I'm also not sure about the strength of Microsoft - even with the free update to Windows 10, most of their customers are conservative, and will stay with Windows 7. Vulkan will be available to Windows 7 (it's just a driver update, Vulkan is tugged on the side of OpenGL in the drivers), but DirectX 12 won't. That means Vulkan's customer base will be quickly much larger than DirectX 12. -- Bernd Paysan "If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself" net2o ID: kQusJzA;7*?t=uy@X}1GWr!+0qqp_Cn176t4(dQ* http://bernd-paysan.de/
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Re: Forth without integer data stack. It is even better! Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-08-18 01:17 +0200
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Re: Forth without integer data stack. It is even better! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-08-17 20:17 -0700
Re: Forth without integer data stack. It is even better! rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 00:49 -0400
Re: Forth without integer data stack. It is even better! Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-17 23:00 -0700
Re: Forth without integer data stack. It is even better! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-08-18 06:25 +0000
Re: Forth without integer data stack. It is even better! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-08-18 08:39 -0700
Re: Forth without integer data stack. It is even better! rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 12:09 -0400
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Re: Forth without integer data stack. It is even better! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-09-12 18:06 -0700
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