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| From | jacob navia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics, sci.astro, sci.space.policy |
| Subject | Re: BURNING forests and the talk goes on |
| Date | 2015-08-07 13:23 +0200 |
| Organization | lccwin |
| Message-ID | <mq24eu$307$1@speranza.aioe.org> (permalink) |
| References | (13 earlier) <mn.20017df8c807a544.127094@snitoo> <uJ6wx.16822$fC.1550@fx20.iad> <mn.28df7df8fba1951a.127094@snitoo> <lfXwx.517$9h1.300@fx31.iad> <mq22hr$u8e$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
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Le 07/08/2015 12:50, jacob navia a écrit : > > > > “By heavens, if this isn’t a sign of climate change, then what is > climate change going to bring?” > > — Peter J. Goldmark, Washington’s commissioner of public lands, on this > year's wildfires. > > http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/02/us/dry-days-in-west-bring-ferocious-start-to-fire-season.html > > > As the U.S. burns you still go on with this kind of talk. > > In his quest to force tougher action on climate change, Gov. Jerry Brown has traveled to China, Mexico, Canada, even the Vatican. But he was much closer to home on Thursday, just a couple dozen miles from the ranch his family has owned for generations. Standing in front of scorched hills, the smell of smoke lingering in the air, Brown said the wildfire that had ripped through the area was evidence that global warming already has created dangerous conditions in California. "This is a real wake-up call," the governor said. "It's a new normal." With the state enduring rising temperatures and its fourth year of drought, more devastating fires could be around the corner, Brown said. "If the drought was to continue for a year or several years, California could literally burn up," he warned. The blaze known as the Rocky fire began more than a week ago near Clear Lake, so far tearing through 69,600 acres in three counties. Firefighters have been making progress in recent days, but 43 homes and 53 other buildings have been destroyed, according to the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection. The Rocky fire is the largest of 19 wildfires burning across the state, and it's been one of the most challenging. It grew rapidly and evaded firefighters' attempts at containment — at one point jumping a highway and threatening more homes. Brown visited the area Thursday to meet with first responders and residents who had lost their homes. "These are very difficult times and a real tragedy for the families," he said, adding that he would find ways to aid the victims. "I've been through a lot of these fires and emergencies. And often, after a few weeks, there's a lot of discontent. So I'm going to be on this very carefully to see what's available." The governor's appearance also was a chance for him to emphasize the dangers of global warming. "We have a real challenge in California," Brown said. "Unlike the East, where climate change seems to be adding more storms, here in California and the Southwest it's more dryness. "We've got more dryness, less moisture and more devastating fires. So more to come. It is very serious." The governor repeated his challenge to Republican presidential candidates — many of whom have denied the science of climate change or opposed steps to combat it — to outline action plans. "California is burning," he said. "What the hell are you going to do about it?" Climate scientists said it is difficult to draw a connection between a specific fire and global warming, but asserted an increased risk of major conflagrations is undeniable. chris.megerian@latimes.com
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Re: BURNING forests and the talk goes on jacob navia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-08-07 13:23 +0200
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Re: BURNING forests and the talk goes on Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 03:46 -0700
Re: BURNING forests and the talk goes on Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-08-05 08:51 -0400
Re: BURNING forests and the talk goes on jacob navia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-08-05 20:23 +0200
Re: BURNING forests and the talk goes on Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-08-06 02:04 -0400
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