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| From | benj <nobody@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics, sci.astro, sci.space.policy |
| Subject | Re: BURNING forests and the talk goes on |
| References | (11 earlier) <mpoccg$7mp$1@speranza.aioe.org> <iTYvx.11930$cF5.10479@fx12.iad> <mn.20017df8c807a544.127094@snitoo> <uJ6wx.16822$fC.1550@fx20.iad> <mn.28df7df8fba1951a.127094@snitoo> |
| Message-ID | <lfXwx.517$9h1.300@fx31.iad> (permalink) |
| Organization | TeraNews.com |
| Date | 2015-08-07 01:21 -0400 |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
On 08/05/2015 06:43 AM, Snidely wrote:
> benj suggested that ...
>> On 08/04/2015 03:01 AM, Snidely rolfed:
>>> On Monday or thereabouts, benj snorted ...
>>>
>>>> And I could go on with record high levels of Antarctic ice and sea
>>>> levels and all the other lies.
>>>
>>> The Antartic ice is covering a larger area of the sea because it is
>>> moving off the continent at a faster rate, as water flow at the true
>>> ground level increases. In addition, the ice shelves are thinner and
>>> breaking off into ice bergs more rapidly.
>>>
>>> You might try monitoring one of the GPS stations set up around the
>>> continent, instead of being smug ... and wrong.
>>>
>>> /dps
>>
>> I think I'll go with the people who have actually been measuring the
>> ice for years rather than must making up political propaganda:
>>
>> http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/antarctic.sea.ice.interactive.html
>>
>>
>
> The studies I have seen are not political propoganda, but actual
> measurements of the ice cap, including the measurements of increased
> ground speed, increased fresh water flow from under the ice, and a wider
> but thinner ice shelf. This includes satellite observations,
> on-the-ground measurements, and long term use of GPS to measure both
> horizontal and vertical displacements.
Earlier radar studies show THICKENING of ice cap. Now that area is
growing instead of shrinking all attention has changed to be on thickness.
I would point out that sea levels have been rising about 2mm a year
since long before the industrial revolution and continues to do so. That
water must come from melted ice. So a small loss of polar ice is normal
and expected. Politics pumps it up into doom.
>> You seem to have forgotten all the squealing about how "global
>> warming" was melting all the ice when the variations were at the
>> lowest point (along with hand-wringing over loss of all coastal
>> cities) and now that there is record ice... Guess what? Well the
>> record ice coverage is due to "global warming" too! Just how stupid do
>> you think people are?
>
> Record ice /area/, but evidently not record ice /volume/.
Volume is very difficult to measure and IF the ice is melting underneath
as claimed then that clearly shows it is caused NOT by "global warming"
which is NOT currently happening, but by some crustal thermal effect.
>> And I've already pointed out that GISS land temperature measurements
>> (and the others too!) show no warming for almost two decades. So
>> scientifically speaking that makes it appear that your melting at
>> ground level is due to fantasy.
>>
>> Tell us again how you have global warming when the temperature isn't
>> going up?
>
> No, the land temperature measurements do show warming continuing over
> the 2 decades of the alleged "warming pause". Sea temperature
> measurements also show increases, and increasing absorbtion of CO2 is
> increasing the acidity of the ocean to the detriment of corals, such as
> the Great Barrier Reef.
I gave you the actual temperature measurements by Dr. Hanson and still
you are a denier? Well, OK, during the stopped warming (it's not a
PAUSE! To be a pause it would have to start again and you have no
superpowers to use to determine if it's going to start again! actually
this is nothing more than a cute trick played with statistics...You find
an upward variation and then tell everyone it's going up forever!
Basically fraud) there is no "significant" warming.
You are correct, however. Global warming IS continuing. I Admit it!
In fact you can see it right on the data I presented. Every year there
is a whopping 0.005 degree temperature rise that is clearly warming
oceans and thus the warmer water causes more CO2 to dissolve making the
water more acid. (Just like warm soda pop!)
Politics isn't science. The Energy tax fraudsters have so fudged and
manipulated and mouse-painted measurements, they have so lied to the
public, and have bought and paid for real scientists and publishers to
sell out to the scam that today climate science is all but defunct as a
discipline. Nobody can be trusted anymore because there has just been
too much pissing in the soup. You can tell us it still tastes fine, but
people who know science won't touch it.
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