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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.sys.raspberry-pi, uk.d-i-y |
| Subject | Re: OT: For all the Window haters |
| Followup-To | uk.d-i-y |
| Date | 2015-08-06 10:38 +0100 |
| Organization | albasani.net |
| Message-ID | <mpv9v6$bvg$3@news.albasani.net> (permalink) |
| References | <GDuwx.182807$2K5.32171@fx31.am4> |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
Followups directed to: uk.d-i-y
I just had to cross post this to where there's a 'windows just works' thread running.. On 05/08/15 21:47, mm0fmf wrote: > There's plenty of Windows haters in this group so here is something just > for them. > > Normally Windows is the OS with all the latest support for the devices > and Linux is the OS that has issues. Sometimes due to manufacturers who > wont release the necessary info to the open source world. (Broadcom!) > > So... I bought a new AC1200 802.11ac router yesterday. Works like a > dream and I'll OpenWrt it this weekend if I get time. My company laptop > has 802.11ac Wifi and I get 867Mbps on 5GHz and 300Mbps on 2.4GHz. My > own laptop only has an old 802.11n Wifi adapter that connects at 72Mbps > on 2.4GHz. Time to get a better mini PCIe Wifi card. > > Where I work we have about 12000 employees and so 12000 Windows laptops > exist. We run them for 3 years till the warranty expires then they get > given to charities. In my office we tend keep them for an extra 18months > used to mimic customer software environments, say Japanese Win7 plus our > software or Ubuntu rather than RedHat. Anyway they all have Wifi so I > thought I'd pull a few cards and try them at home, find our which one > works best and get one of those from eBay for a few pounds. > > 1st up Intel Advance 6200-AGN, dual band, 802.11n 300/300Mbps. Popped it > into my laptop, boot Mint 13xcfe, Wifi works, connect on 5GHz, 150Mbps > best speed, good throughput. Onto 2.4GHz and 300Mbps everytime and > really good throughput. The 5GHz performance was not so good but I was > hoping the driver will have moved on when I get round to upgrading to > Mint17. Time to try Windows. Boot same PC into Win7 64bit and there's no > Wifi but a new network adapter was found wanting drivers. No driver > found using Windows Update, time for Intel's website. I downloaded the > driver scanner (which was a big bloaty piece of software) and it ran > with all sorts of animated nonsense and identified a newer motherboard > driver and the Wifi driver. Another 28MB and 92MB download later (92MB > for a Wifi driver !!!!!) and I ran the installer, more animations and > several minutes later all done. > > No Wifi. Device Manager helpfully reported "This device cannot start. > (Code 10)". Power off, reboot. No Wifi. 2hours of fannying about later, > multiple Google searches and the bloody Wifi still doesn't work on > Windows. There's repeated tales of woe on the net. The mad thing is the > card originally came in a laptop running Win7 64bit but I'm buggered if > I can find a set of drivers that will work. > > This is back to front. Normally it's Windows that just works. With > Linux, especially on a laptop, you expect to have a bit of mucking about > needed to get things like laptop special keys to work (LCD brightness > etc.) or Wifi needing some extra firmware or maybe a command line option > so graphics works. I've been running Windows since before Win 3.0 and > Linux since 1998 on SPARC, PA-Risc, MIPS, Arc, ARM, all Intel/AMD x86s, > Hitachi SH3/SH4 and never have I had a case where the drivers/hardware > works on Linux but not on Windows. > > This can only mean that Linux on the desktop has finally arrived and I > didn't notice! It also taught me it's probably best to avoid Intel Wifi > hardware and software irrespective of the OS. > -- New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in someone else's pocket.
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OT: For all the Window haters mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-08-05 21:47 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2015-08-06 00:58 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2015-08-06 07:48 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-08-06 08:43 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2015-08-06 10:28 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-06 09:57 +0000
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Brian Reay <no.sp@m.com> - 2015-08-06 10:58 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2015-08-06 14:55 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-06 19:27 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-08-06 19:46 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2015-08-06 20:59 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Graham. <me@privicy.net> - 2015-08-07 00:22 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-08-07 17:12 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2015-08-07 16:22 +0000
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-06 09:55 +0000
Re: OT: For all the Window haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-06 10:38 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2015-08-07 08:18 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Jim Diamond <Jim.Diamond@deletethis.AcadiaU.ca> - 2015-08-07 18:53 -0300
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-08 08:13 +0000
Re: OT: For all the Window haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-08 10:01 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-08-08 14:14 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-08 13:31 +0000
Re: OT: For all the Window haters mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-08-09 00:14 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-09 07:22 +0000
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-09 10:11 +0000
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-09 11:28 +0000
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2015-08-09 13:30 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-09 16:00 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-09 18:04 +0000
Re: OT: For all the Window haters mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-08-09 20:11 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-09 14:06 +0000
Re: OT: For all the Window haters druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2015-08-09 21:32 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-09 21:16 +0000
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2015-08-10 11:05 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-10 13:51 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-10 17:13 +0000
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2015-08-11 11:40 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Tony van der Hoff <tony@vanderhoff.org> - 2015-08-11 13:07 +0200
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-11 12:59 +0000
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2015-08-15 09:44 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-15 10:07 +0000
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2015-08-15 16:13 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-15 19:54 +0000
Re: OT: For all the Window haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-15 23:59 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-16 00:13 +0000
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 11:02 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-16 12:58 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 10:51 -0400
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-16 19:05 +0000
Re: OT: For all the Window haters druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2015-08-16 23:03 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-16 22:55 +0000
Re: OT: For all the Window haters druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2015-08-17 21:46 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Mike Fleming <{mike}@tauzero.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 14:26 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2015-08-16 17:02 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2015-08-16 17:02 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-16 19:18 +0000
Re: OT: For all the Window haters "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-18 19:39 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-09 15:56 +0100
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Tonton Th <tTh@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-08-09 14:59 +0000
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-09 16:55 +0000
Re: OT: For all the Window haters Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-09 16:38 -0400
Re: OT: For all the Window haters mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-08-09 19:55 +0100
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