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Re: OT: For all the Window haters

From Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.sys.raspberry-pi
Subject Re: OT: For all the Window haters
Date 2015-08-06 09:55 +0000
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On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 00:58:12 +0100, Rob Morley wrote:

> Linux hardware detection and driver installation has been a lot better
> in the last two or three years.   At least that's how it seems to me,
> mostly using *buntu and other Debian based distros.
>
Same goes for Fedora. For years its main bugbear has been the sheer pain 
of upgrading to the next version on its 6 monthly release cycle. That 
involved:
(a) burn a DVD  
(b) do a cold install from the DVD 
(c) run a massive "yum update"
(d) pull in all the nonstandard packages you need
(e) get your various services up and running 

IOW Fedora was almost as much a pain to upgrade as Windows, except that 
you only had to reboot once.

Since Fedora 20 most of that's gone: you simply run the FedUp utility, 
which does an in-situ, and quite lengthy, online upgrade to the new 
version. This is followed by a reboot and 'dnf upgrade', which takes a 
bit longer than my usual weekly run, and more or less everything is up 
and happy once again.
 
yum, the old RH package installer, has always been pretty good (some 
people have said its package dependency resolution is better then apt) 
and its recent replacement, dnf, seems to be very much the same but a bit 
faster and slicker.  


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OT: For all the Window haters mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-08-05 21:47 +0100
  Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2015-08-06 00:58 +0100
    Re: OT: For all the Window haters Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2015-08-06 07:48 +0100
      Re: OT: For all the Window haters David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-08-06 08:43 +0100
        Re: OT: For all the Window haters Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2015-08-06 10:28 +0100
        Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-06 09:57 +0000
        Re: OT: For all the Window haters Brian Reay <no.sp@m.com> - 2015-08-06 10:58 +0100
          Re: OT: For all the Window haters Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2015-08-06 14:55 +0100
            Re: OT: For all the Window haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-06 19:27 +0100
              Re: OT: For all the Window haters mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-08-06 19:46 +0100
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2015-08-06 20:59 +0100
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Graham. <me@privicy.net> - 2015-08-07 00:22 +0100
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-08-07 17:12 +0100
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2015-08-07 16:22 +0000
    Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-06 09:55 +0000
  Re: OT: For all the Window haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-06 10:38 +0100
  Re: OT: For all the Window haters druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2015-08-07 08:18 +0100
  Re: OT: For all the Window haters Jim Diamond <Jim.Diamond@deletethis.AcadiaU.ca> - 2015-08-07 18:53 -0300
    Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-08 08:13 +0000
      Re: OT: For all the Window haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-08 10:01 +0100
      Re: OT: For all the Window haters mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-08-08 14:14 +0100
        Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-08 13:31 +0000
          Re: OT: For all the Window haters mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-08-09 00:14 +0100
            Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-09 07:22 +0000
              Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-09 10:11 +0000
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-09 11:28 +0000
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2015-08-09 13:30 +0100
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-09 16:00 +0100
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-09 18:04 +0000
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-08-09 20:11 +0100
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-09 14:06 +0000
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2015-08-09 21:32 +0100
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-08-09 21:16 +0000
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2015-08-10 11:05 +0100
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-10 13:51 +0100
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-10 17:13 +0000
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2015-08-11 11:40 +0100
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Tony van der Hoff <tony@vanderhoff.org> - 2015-08-11 13:07 +0200
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-11 12:59 +0000
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2015-08-15 09:44 +0100
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-15 10:07 +0000
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2015-08-15 16:13 +0100
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-15 19:54 +0000
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-15 23:59 +0100
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-16 00:13 +0000
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 11:02 +0100
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-16 12:58 +0100
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 10:51 -0400
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-16 19:05 +0000
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2015-08-16 23:03 +0100
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-16 22:55 +0000
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2015-08-17 21:46 +0100
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Mike Fleming <{mike}@tauzero.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 14:26 +0100
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2015-08-16 17:02 +0100
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2015-08-16 17:02 +0100
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-16 19:18 +0000
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-18 19:39 +0100
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-09 15:56 +0100
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Tonton Th <tTh@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-08-09 14:59 +0000
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-09 16:55 +0000
                Re: OT: For all the Window haters Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-09 16:38 -0400
              Re: OT: For all the Window haters mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-08-09 19:55 +0100

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