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Re: Two stupid questions for relativistic morons

From Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Two stupid questions for relativistic morons
Date 2015-07-11 14:17 +0200
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|You're positing a scenario where there's no relativistic effect on the
|clocks, but that they all exhibit the same classical clock error, which
|just happens to be of the amount predicted by a theory that you consider
|inapplicable.
|It's a tough sell.

No, it is not.
You're forgetting something. LET gives the same prediction, as SR.
LET is classical, SR relativistic. They have the same formulas.
Where is the difference? Right here. LET assumes clock error.
LET assumes, that if clocks unsynchronize, it's an error and corrections
are required. SR assumes time dilation. SR assumes unsynchronized
clocks are proper clocks. SR assumes no corrections are required.

Real difference between relativity and classical physics is - in
answering this question. Whether clocks should be synchronized,
or not. Formulas are the same, predictions are the same. It's just
that  - Your preferred answer to the question "how to set clocks"
is inconsistent with common sense,  i.e. stupid.

Tough sell?
A "standard" not used even by its creator - THAT's a tough sell.

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Re: Two stupid questions for relativistic morons Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-07-10 11:47 +1000
  Re: Two stupid questions for relativistic morons Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-07-11 18:52 +1000
    Re: Two stupid questions for relativistic morons Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-11 11:35 +0200
      Re: Two stupid questions for relativistic morons Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-11 04:32 -0700
      Re: Two stupid questions for relativistic morons Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-07-11 21:35 +1000
        Re: Two stupid questions for relativistic morons Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-11 14:17 +0200
          Re: Two stupid questions for relativistic morons paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-07-12 17:04 -0700
          Re: Two stupid questions for relativistic morons Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-07-13 10:10 +1000
          Re: Two stupid questions for relativistic morons JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 13:15 -0700

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