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On 31/08/2015 01:10:42, DaveG wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 21:44:57 +0100, mick wrote:
>
>> On 30/08/2015 21:26:57, DaveG wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 14:49:27 +0000, mick wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Have been looking for a file manager equivalent to Directory Opus on
>>>> Windows.
>>>> 
>>>> Krusader came close with nice user interface but viewing panels not to
>>>> my liking.
>>>> 
>>>> Now I have just found what could be the holy grail, 4Pane, dual
>>>> vertical tree and folder panes which can be changed to horizontal
>>>> view, the way I like to work, or single tree and file pane.
>>>> Preferred layouts can be saved as templates.
>>>> http://www.4pane.co.uk/index.html
>>>> 
>>> I can see why, as a new user and your use-case of a file manager on
>>> Windows, but it's just looks overly complex and "cluttered" to me.
>>> 
>>> I suppose, as a user who switched to FreeBSD when 4.3 was the latest
>>> release many years ago, I've learned to use the individual GUI and
>>> command line tools available and so don't have the need for a single
>>> all-
>>> singing, all-dancing file manager.
>>> 
>>> On the other hand, it does bring a lot of complex tasks under one roof
>>> and makes the basics of those complex tasks accessible with a
>>> relatively shallow learning curve,  I'm glad you found something you
>>> feel comfortable with but it's not for me :-)
>> 
>> I don't know how to configure it to see my LAN :-(
>
> You don't.  You configure the OS to see the LAN and then the programmes 
> will see what the OS sees.
>
> What are you trying to do?  See file shares?  Windows shares?

Windows network, 4 windows computers with many shared folders.

> Oh, hang on, I just looked and it has it's own device/share mounting 
> system.  At a guess there';; be something weird in the way it sees 
> Windows shares or Windows is expecting something weird.

Yes, you're spot on.

> What Linux are you using and does the normal desktop "see" the Windows 
> shares?

Mint 17.2 Cinnamon.  The normal desktop sees all the windows shares.

> I have Windows shares available but 4Pane isn't showing anything in the 
> drop down boxes to configure it using it's own built-in system.

I did do it eventually but it is too mind numbing all the time. More 
later.

> You'll need to do this before you do anything else...
>
> sudo apt-get install cifs-utils
>
> If that install stuff then you it's stuff you need.  If it doesn't, you 
> already had it.  CIFS is what Windows sharing protocol is called, aka 
> samba.

I had all that, its upto date and working.

> create a directory eg /usr/home/mick/windows
>
> then do 
>
> sudo mount.cifs //server/media /media/dave/windows/ -o user=dave
>
> where "server" is your //server name /media is the name of the share and 
> /media/dave/windows is where it will be mounted.  -o user=dave is where 
> "dave" is the windows user name you will connect with.
>
> You can use smbclient -L server -U dave (server name and username as 
> appropriate for you) to get a list of share names, 
>
> eg  
>
> dave@laptop:~/Desktop$ smbclient -L server -U dave
> Enter dave's password: 
> Domain=[X] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.6.25]
>
> 	Sharename       Type      Comment
> 	---------       ----      -------
> 	media           Disk      Films, Tv, Music, Photos
> 	home            Disk      Home Dir for dave on server
> 	stuff           Disk      Other Stuff
> 	IPC$            IPC       IPC Service (Server)
> Domain=[X] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.6.25]
>
> 	Server               Comment
> 	---------            -------
> 	SERVER               Server
>
> 	Workgroup            Master
> 	---------            -------
> 	X                    SERVER
>
> It ALWAYS asks for a password, just press enter if you use a blank 
> password.
>
> Try not to get confused when sudo asks for the local root password though!
>
> If the windows end is set up properly "home" should map to the correct 
> users home dir based on the credentials you give.
>
> Here's a couple of web pages with info.  Some, all or a combination of 
> the two should do what you need.  Use your Google-fu grasshopper.
>
> http://www.howtogeek.com/176471/how-to-share-files-between-windows-and-
> linux/?PageSpeed=noscript
>
> http://www.howtogeek.com/168115/mount-a-windows-shared-folder-on-linux-
> with-samba/?PageSpeed=noscript

Thanks for taking the time to write all that.  I had already gone 
through the two links above.
All I kept getting in terminal no matter how I tried was:
mount error 13 = Permission denied
Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g.man mount.cifs)

Yet, all this time Krusader was working fine, showing all four 
computers and the folders/files they were sharing.

I even set up a brand new user and a one folder share on one machine in 
windows and still got the same message.  Hunted high and low on google 
for an answer but nothing came up.  Kept looking at my windows network 
and couldn't see anything wrong, disabled both the windows and linux 
firewalls, nothing.  Permission, I need permission, ah! wrong password, 
no, I tried every password known even the blank one, zilch.
Then the lightbulb moment, I turned off password protection in windows 
and mount worked in terminal and mounted first time in 4Pane.

4Pane is just that, a pain, you have to mount each folder individually 
to see it, too much trouble that is.  I want to click on a computer 
icon, see the folder tree, click on a folder and see the files.  
Krusader does that, all you have to do is type the comp. name and 
password once and away you go.
Shame about 4Pane because its layout was how I like to work but I can't 
do with all the pissing about mounting folders and I am not happy 
either having to turn off password protection in windows so it will 
work.

Oh well, time to learn more with Krusader then on to the next project 
:-)


-- 
mick

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  Re: File Manager DaveG <nospam@nospam.net> - 2015-08-30 20:26 +0000
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