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Re: File Manager

From mick <nospam@junk.mail>
Newsgroups free.virginmedia.comp.linux
Subject Re: File Manager
Date 2015-09-01 01:02 +0100
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On 31/08/2015 22:18:28, DaveG wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 21:22:13 +0100, mick wrote:
>
>> Shame about 4Pane because its layout was how I like to work but I can't
>> do with all the pissing about mounting folders and I am not happy either
>> having to turn off password protection in windows so it will work.
>
> Well, no not really.  You need to remember this is not windows and things 
> work differently.  Having a specific general purpose app doing stuff like 
> finding and mounting network shares is very much a Windows ideology.  The 
> *nix way is that you know what you are doing and set up your shares at 
> the OS level, mount them into the file tree and then *all* apps can see 
> them.  The *nix ethos is more of a client/server system where there are 
> one or more servers you connect to, not having all clients acting as 
> servers for everyone else.  You /can/ do that, but it's discouraged.  
> Windows is the same, to be fair, but Windows is trying to be all things 
> to all men so allows you to easily build ad hoc networks where everyone 
> is a server.

When I ditch all the Windows OS for Linux, problem solved? ;-)

> Some Linux distros have GUI stuff that will do that for you.
>
> If you have four windows PCs and now a Linux PC, all with individually 
> shared folders, maybe it's time to look at a more rational network layout 
> and treat at least one PC as a central file server where you keep all of 
> your shared stuff.

You're right, central server is looming large on the horizon, some food 
for thought on that on.

> Windows does a very good job at hiding away the dirty little secrets of 
> networking from the user but this is also the Achilles heel in terms of 
> security.  If someone gets into a home network, odds are they get access 
> to the entire network.  Sorting out a network properly and setting all 
> the correct user permissions in the right places can go a long way to 
> limiting damage from either an intruder or even a virus/worm.

I find windows shares and permissions to be a black art at the best of 
times, mixing it with linux boils my brain. :-)

> Just as an example, the /media share (tv, films, music, photos) is 
> exported read-only to the two Raspbery Pi XMBC media players and to my 
> wifes PC.  She has an empty copy of the /media tree inside the read-only
> /media tree which is read/write so she can put photos there etc. and an 
> automated hourly cron job copies them into the "proper" /media tree.  If 
> her Windows computer gets infected, the worst that could happen is 
> infected files end up in the main /media directory but the virus can't 
> infect everything there or delete/encrypt anything already there.  She 
> backs up her own stuff to //server/home which maps to her own server home 
> directory but that gets backed up by the server every night to the backup 
> array which is NOT shared out to anyone.  I have to log into the server 
> to get access to that.

-- 
mick

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File Manager mick <no.spam@junk.mail> - 2015-08-30 14:49 +0000
  Re: File Manager DaveG <nospam@nospam.net> - 2015-08-30 20:26 +0000
    Re: File Manager mick <nospam@junk.mail> - 2015-08-30 21:44 +0100
      Re: File Manager DaveG <nospam@nospam.net> - 2015-08-31 00:10 +0000
        Re: File Manager mick <nospam@junk.mail> - 2015-08-31 12:43 +0100
        Re: File Manager mick <nospam@junk.mail> - 2015-08-31 21:22 +0100
          Re: File Manager DaveG <nospam@nospam.net> - 2015-08-31 21:18 +0000
            Re: File Manager mick <nospam@junk.mail> - 2015-09-01 01:02 +0100
              Re: File Manager DaveG <nospam@nospam.net> - 2015-09-01 07:45 +0000

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