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Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop

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On 06/18/2015 04:14 PM, Johnny B Good wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 05:42:07 -0700, Jon Danniken wrote:
>
>> On 06/16/2015 10:58 PM, RS Wood wrote:
>>> Jon Danniken <jonSPAMdanniken@yaSMPAhoo.com> writes:
>>>
>>>>> the brand new Cinnamon 2.6, just released, when delivered later
>>>    this year.…
>>>
>>>> Considering how badly KDE screwed the pooch with KDE5/Plasma5,
>>>   it's nice
>>>> to see that Cinnamon is stepping up to fill the gap.
>>>>
>>>> Jon
>>>
>>> Is it as bad as that?  I haven't tried it yet since I'm on a distro
>>> where I've now got everything working the way I'd like, and I don't
>>> want to upgrade and have to go through it all again.  I'm used to
>>> hearing how they botched the upgrade to KDE4, but I hadn't heard they'd
>>> botched the upgrade to KDE5.
>>> I was actually thinking, a lot of what they're promoting as new
>>> features are things that KDE4 (at least) had ages ago, like the ability
>>> to have multiple panels, or put the panels where you want them on the
>>> screen.
>>
>> In the classic application launcher (AKA "kicker"), there is no way to
>> disable the search field.  If you previously accessed items in your
>> application menu by using the first letter of the entries, you're out of
>> luck because the search field always takes focus, and there is no way to
>> disable it.
>>
>> I gave it a try in the new Fedora22 and was thoroughly unimpressed. They
>> also got rid of the Oxygen theme, leaving only a scant few themes, all
>> of which use huge padding and overly large fonts.
>>
>> They basically went with the look of a smartphone instead of sticking
>> with the functionality of a classic PC, destroying accessibility along
>> the way.
>>
>
>   If by "classic PC" you're referring to the epitome of desktop
> environments exemplified by Microsoft's windows 95 and windows 2000
> 'classic desktop' then I'm in basic agreement with you.
>
>   Just because it was Microsoft who came up with "The Classic Desktop",
> that's no excuse for the *nix devs to treat it like "The Elephant in The
> Room" and totally ignore all of its good features. Almost certainly,
> Microsoft didn't 'clean room' invent the desktop paradigm. At the very
> least, they'd have 'borrowed' ideas (if not outright stole them) from
> others' design efforts (just like Apple).
>
>   The decline in usability of the windows desktop GUI became swiftly
> apparent once Microsoft had decided to attack the consumer market in
> earnest with the launch of windows XP and it's been a downhill ride ever
> since for the user. :-(
>
>
	Microsoft stole from Apple  and Apple stole from Xerox PARC.
	But Jay Miner and his crew synthesized what software features
they wanted on the Amiga and organized the hardware to permit that.
	GNU/Linux/KDE/Gnome/et al synthesized a lot of what went before
and built it to run on whatever hardware they could access, with FOSS.

	The only reason to look down on Microsoft and Apple is because
they never gave recognition to the source of the WIMP.  Oh and
Apple & MS stole color computing from the Amiga. Good thing that
they did or all we would have is tremendously expensive video cards
or monochrome.

	bliss

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[CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2015-06-16 14:08 +0000
  Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Jon Danniken <jonSPAMdanniken@yaSMPAhoo.com> - 2015-06-16 13:57 -0700
    Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2015-06-17 08:58 +0300
      Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Jon Danniken <jonSPAMdanniken@yaSMPAhoo.com> - 2015-06-17 05:42 -0700
        Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-06-18 13:46 +0200
          Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop "J.B.Treadstone" <jbt@dev.nul> - 2015-06-18 13:29 +0100
            Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-06-18 21:07 +0200
              Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop "J.B.Treadstone" <jbt@dev.nul> - 2015-06-18 23:37 +0100
                Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-06-20 21:23 +0200
          Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Jon Danniken <jonSPAMdanniken@yaSMPAhoo.com> - 2015-06-18 06:17 -0700
            Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-06-18 16:34 +0000
              Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-18 13:43 -0400
            Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-06-18 21:12 +0200
              Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Jon Danniken <jonSPAMdanniken@yaSMPAhoo.com> - 2015-06-18 13:47 -0700
                Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-06-18 14:46 -0700
          Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-06-19 11:20 +0100
        Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2015-06-18 23:14 +0000
          Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-06-18 16:42 -0700
          Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-06-19 11:52 +0100
      Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2015-06-18 13:56 +0300

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