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Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop

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On 06/18/2015 12:12 PM, Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:
> Op 18-06-15 om 15:17 schreef Jon Danniken:
>>
>> Previously, you hit the application launcher key, then the first letter
>> of the application, and it opens up.
>>
>> Currently, as per your observation, you hit the application launcher
>> key, then the first letter of the application (which goes into the
>> search field), then you have to choose the application and hit enter.
>> Multiple keystrokes that have to be entered multiple times a day,
>> whereas before it was a simple two-key access.
>>
>> The point here is that KDE is going down the same road that MS went
>> down, ie changing the user interface and not giving the user any option
>> to retain the same interface that they find perfectly acceptable.
>>
>> Some people need to type into a search field and choose from the
>> available options, others, like myself, are able to learn keystroke
>> combinations, or *gasp* actually look at the cascading menu list of
>> applications that are available.
>>
>> Forcing a search field in the application menu is the height of
>> arrogance and stupidity, similar to what KDE did in the past with
>> forcing baloo on users.
>>
>> Jon
>>
> 
> I don't even consider clicking or opening the Kicker for a standard
> program.
> For years I've assigned global shortcuts.
> Like for Firefox it is META+N (yes from the days of Netscape),
> for Dolphin it's META+D and for Thunderbird META+T.

Yes, I also have a number of global shortcuts set up, maybe a half dozen
or so.  Still, there are several dozen programs that I still access
through the application menu/kicker, programs that I maybe don't use all
that often, but which I still generally know the keystrokes to get to
it.  The search field kills that interface for me.

> But, knowing KDE this regression will eventually be fixed.

I hope you're right Dirk, but I'm not going to hold my breath.  At least
for something like Cinnamon there is an optional application menu one
can download from github (https://github.com/lestcape/Configurable-Menu
- but I don't know if it is navigable from the keyboard), and likewise
for MS products you can install "ClassicShell" to bring back the same
functionality that most of us have taken for granted for what is coming
up to be the last 20 years.

Why KDE decided to drop the ball on this, forcing the search field and
not including the classic option, is beyond me.

Jon

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[CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2015-06-16 14:08 +0000
  Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Jon Danniken <jonSPAMdanniken@yaSMPAhoo.com> - 2015-06-16 13:57 -0700
    Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2015-06-17 08:58 +0300
      Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Jon Danniken <jonSPAMdanniken@yaSMPAhoo.com> - 2015-06-17 05:42 -0700
        Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-06-18 13:46 +0200
          Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop "J.B.Treadstone" <jbt@dev.nul> - 2015-06-18 13:29 +0100
            Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-06-18 21:07 +0200
              Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop "J.B.Treadstone" <jbt@dev.nul> - 2015-06-18 23:37 +0100
                Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-06-20 21:23 +0200
          Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Jon Danniken <jonSPAMdanniken@yaSMPAhoo.com> - 2015-06-18 06:17 -0700
            Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-06-18 16:34 +0000
              Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-18 13:43 -0400
            Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-06-18 21:12 +0200
              Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Jon Danniken <jonSPAMdanniken@yaSMPAhoo.com> - 2015-06-18 13:47 -0700
                Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-06-18 14:46 -0700
          Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-06-19 11:20 +0100
        Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2015-06-18 23:14 +0000
          Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-06-18 16:42 -0700
          Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-06-19 11:52 +0100
      Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2015-06-18 13:56 +0300

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