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| From | Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: "Death To C" |
| Date | 2015-05-04 16:18 -0500 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <mi8nli$gap$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <mi8hvq$p37$1@dont-email.me> <1d3d39e1-3907-4222-9369-154784461fbd@googlegroups.com> |
On 04-May-15 15:22, Malcolm McLean wrote: > On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 8:41:55 PM UTC+1, Lynn McGuire wrote: >> "Death To C" http://techcrunch.com/2015/05/02/and-c-plus-plus-too/ >> >> "Ladies and gentlemen, the C programming language. It's a classic. >> It is sleek, and spartan, and elegant. (Especially compared to its >> sequel, that bloated mess C++, which shares all the faults I'm >> about to describe.) It is blindingly, quicksilver fast, because >> it's about as close to the bone of the machine as you can get. It >> is time- tested and ubiquitous. And it is terrifyingly dangerous." >> >> So what else is new? > > The main problem is buffer overruns. More rarely you can also have > dangling or alisased pointers. But no-one has come up with a nice > fix. It's easy enough to implement safe arrays in another language, > but they you lose the speed of raw writes to memory. For that matter, you could implement the same under the covers in C, but that means either fat pointers or some sort of handle/reference system rather than raw addresses, and you'd need special tricks to link with code not compiled that way. A new language is going to have similar problems, though, without the benefits of being C. S -- Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking
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"Death To C" Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2015-05-04 14:41 -0500
Re: "Death To C" Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-05-04 22:16 +0200
Re: "Death To C" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-05-04 13:26 -0700
Re: "Death To C" Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-05-04 22:51 +0200
Re: "Death To C" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-05-04 22:02 +0100
Re: "Death To C" Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-05-05 00:06 +0200
Re: "Death To C" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-05-04 13:22 -0700
Re: "Death To C" Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-05-04 22:41 +0200
Re: "Death To C" Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-05-04 20:25 -0500
Bounds checking in C (Was: "Death To C") gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-05-05 02:15 +0000
Re: Bounds checking in C (Was: "Death To C") BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2015-05-06 10:23 -0500
Re: "Death To C" Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-05-04 21:36 -0500
Re: "Death To C" Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-05-05 01:01 -0500
Re: "Death To C" Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-05-05 12:23 -0500
Re: "Death To C" CHIN Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com> - 2015-05-05 03:06 -0700
Re: "Death To C" Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-05-05 17:43 +1200
Re: "Death To C" Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-05-05 01:00 -0500
Re: "Death To C" Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-05-05 01:13 -0500
Re: "Death To C" Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-05-05 19:15 +1200
Re: "Death To C" Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-05-05 02:41 -0500
Re: "Death To C" Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-05-05 20:12 +1200
Re: "Death To C" glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-05 06:48 +0000
Re: "Death To C" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-05-05 10:57 +0100
Re: "Death To C" asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2015-05-05 16:53 -0700
Re: "Death To C" Nobody <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-05-06 08:10 +0100
Re: "Death To C" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-05-06 09:53 +0100
Re: "Death To C" Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-05-06 13:49 +0100
Re: "Death To C" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-05-06 14:29 +0100
Re: "Death To C" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-05-06 09:43 -0700
Re: "Death To C" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-05-06 18:24 +0100
Re: "Death To C" asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2015-05-08 00:44 -0700
Re: "Death To C" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-05-08 13:49 +0100
Re: "Death To C" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-05-04 22:15 +0100
Re: "Death To C" BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2015-05-08 09:09 -0500
Re: "Death To C" Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-05-04 16:18 -0500
Re: "Death To C" Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-05-05 12:49 +1200
Re: "Death To C" raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-05-08 21:52 +0000
Re: "Death To C" Merikissa <merikissa@no.spam.net> - 2015-05-10 04:04 +0300
Re: "Death To C" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-05-13 08:11 -0700
Re: "Death To C" David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-05-13 10:00 -0700
Re: "Death To C" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-05-13 18:20 +0100
Re: "Death To C" David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-05-14 10:47 -0700
Re: "Death To C" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-05-14 11:09 -0700
Re: "Death To C" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-05-15 19:21 +0100
Re: "Death To C" David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-05-16 09:10 -0700
Re: "Death To C" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-05-16 20:45 +0100
Re: "Death To C" David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-05-17 09:38 -0700
Re: "Death To C" raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-05-17 10:47 +0000
Re: "Death To C" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-05-17 12:20 +0100
Re: "Death To C" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-05-13 10:24 -0700
Re: "Death To C" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-05-13 22:01 +0200
Re: "Death To C" Nobody <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-05-14 07:48 +0100
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